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Offline trevorsride

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Re: New Guy with a new toy.
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2009, 10:24:17 AM »
I was reading on another forum that the 2" coil spacers was to much, and will hurt the CV's. Is this true? I think I would trust the info on this forum more than the one I was reading.
96 Geo Tracker 1.6 16V 3spd auto 2 dr soft top Jeffs 2" spacers, and 30" tires

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Re: New Guy with a new toy.
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2009, 10:32:29 AM »
I was reading on another forum that the 2" coil spacers was to much, and will hurt the CV's. Is this true? I think I would trust the info on this forum more than the one I was reading.
2" is ok, i wouldnt go over 2" though without dropping the front diff. or you will run into problems. I have run 2" spacers on stock springs with no problems.
96 2 Door Tracker
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Re: New Guy with a new toy.
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2009, 10:49:27 AM »
That is the exact reason my kit uses 1.5" spacers in front and 2" in the rear. The 1.5" spacer gives you 2" of lift due to suspension geometry. Trust me on this one guys, I've ran this exact kit for 4+ years now. No problems, 95% of my customers run this kit with no complaints.
1997 4dr. Sidekick Sport 1.8L DOHC
2" coil spacers- I make and sell 1.5" and 2" on e-bay.  Look under seller: hoepkers
3" Masterkit1 body lift
Custom strut spacers
31/11.50/16 Super Swamper LTB's w/1.5" wheel spacers Steel bumpers Custom cold air intake 2" exhaust w/cherry bomb 98 Expedition, 2" lift, 35's, Magnaflow exhaust - BIG BLUE

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Re: New Guy with a new toy.
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2009, 11:19:37 AM »
95% of my customers run this kit with no complaints.

My inner grammarian says you phrased that poorly..
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1.5" rear coil spacers
Monroe 32316 shocks w/2" extenders
235/70-16 Bridgestone Destination A/Ts on stock XL-7 Alloys RRO Rock Rails (Presently removed, as they rusted to all hell; all the bolts were rusted to dust.  Real nice, RRO...) http://www.trivia-nights.com

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Re: New Guy with a new toy.
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2009, 11:44:16 AM »
+ 100000 for Jeff's spacers.

I bought em...installed em...and been running over all sorts of crap since.  No problems so far.  Stock CV's are totally fine.

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Re: New Guy with a new toy.
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2009, 11:55:38 AM »
Ok, sounds like it must be ok. Thanks for the input!!
96 Geo Tracker 1.6 16V 3spd auto 2 dr soft top Jeffs 2" spacers, and 30" tires

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Re: New Guy with a new toy.
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2009, 12:47:00 PM »
That is the exact reason my kit uses 1.5" spacers in front and 2" in the rear. The 1.5" spacer gives you 2" of lift due to suspension geometry. Trust me on this one guys, I've ran this exact kit for 4+ years now. No problems, 95% of my customers run this kit with no complaints.

Does your kit come with instructions? And do I need to do the strut flip thing in the front with your kit or does it come with a spacer for the strut?
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96 Geo Tracker 1.6 16V 3spd auto 2 dr soft top Jeffs 2" spacers, and 30" tires

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Re: New Guy with a new toy.
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2009, 12:55:30 PM »
Jeff's kit is the way to fly. For $200 all said and done (his kit + shocks you need to buy on your own), it's hands-down the unbeatably best value for fitting 31" tires. Body lifts are the debil. And, don't be afraid to cut your fenders to get some room too (cheap & keeps the center of gravity LOW).

Screw that Masterkit - it's a rip off. For a couple hundred $$$ more you can get THE BEST LIFT out there: OME. OME is the premium kit, gives 1.5-2" of lift, and is SOFT. It's like driving a completely different rig. I can jump in the sand dunes all day long, and it's no problem... and on-street it drives MUCH better than stock.

Get yourself some 5.125 gears to put in your diffs (to make up for larger tires), and you'll be set.
'96 4 door kick: 29" Pep-Boys M/T, 1.5" OME
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Re: New Guy with a new toy.
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2009, 02:02:18 PM »
That is the exact reason my kit uses 1.5" spacers in front and 2" in the rear. The 1.5" spacer gives you 2" of lift due to suspension geometry. Trust me on this one guys, I've ran this exact kit for 4+ years now. No problems, 95% of my customers run this kit with no complaints.

Does your kit come with instructions? And do I need to do the strut flip thing in the front with your kit or does it come with a spacer for the strut?
Yes it comes with instructions, strut spacers and coil spacers. All you need to add is longer rear shocks. I can even get the shocks if you want.
1997 4dr. Sidekick Sport 1.8L DOHC
2" coil spacers- I make and sell 1.5" and 2" on e-bay.  Look under seller: hoepkers
3" Masterkit1 body lift
Custom strut spacers
31/11.50/16 Super Swamper LTB's w/1.5" wheel spacers Steel bumpers Custom cold air intake 2" exhaust w/cherry bomb 98 Expedition, 2" lift, 35's, Magnaflow exhaust - BIG BLUE

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Re: New Guy with a new toy.
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2009, 02:05:38 PM »
No, thats ok, I can get them here in town, and save the shipping. How do I buy from you?
96 Geo Tracker 1.6 16V 3spd auto 2 dr soft top Jeffs 2" spacers, and 30" tires

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Re: New Guy with a new toy.
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2009, 08:30:45 PM »
Jeff's kit is the way to fly. For $200 all said and done (his kit + shocks you need to buy on your own), it's hands-down the unbeatably best value for fitting 31" tires. Body lifts are the debil. And, don't be afraid to cut your fenders to get some room too (cheap & keeps the center of gravity LOW).

Screw that Masterkit - it's a rip off. For a couple hundred $$$ more you can get THE BEST LIFT out there: OME. OME is the premium kit, gives 1.5-2" of lift, and is SOFT. It's like driving a completely different rig. I can jump in the sand dunes all day long, and it's no problem... and on-street it drives MUCH better than stock.

Get yourself some 5.125 gears to put in your diffs (to make up for larger tires), and you'll be set.
tell me the negative about the masterkit1, seemed like a very good deal for a full 5 inch lift but it seems like you dont like it, you have me double thinking my choice, whats your thoughts?
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Re: New Guy with a new toy.
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2009, 10:57:06 AM »
well, I sent Jeff the money for his 2" kit. I figured everyone was happy, and it is cheaper, even with new shocks. I think I might just leave it at that for now, untill I get some more money for a good body lift. I know everyone says you can run 31's with just the 2" spacers, but most say some cutting will be required. Think I can get away with a 30x9.50-15 on a 7" alloy without cutting anything?
96 Geo Tracker 1.6 16V 3spd auto 2 dr soft top Jeffs 2" spacers, and 30" tires

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Re: New Guy with a new toy.
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2009, 01:07:11 PM »
trevorsride,
It's hard to say, because tire manufacturers sell tires at different sizes (usually smaller) than advertised. It's shockingly common for a 31" tire to measure 29-30" inflated. WHY this has been allowed to continue (legally) I have no idea - it's false advertising at it's finest. Basically that translates to: what fits for me, my brand of tires, AND how "fresh" my springs are (some sag more than others) means 31" might fit under mine - but a little rubbing on yours. This can easily and cheaply be fixed by any combination of BFH, properly back-spaced wheels or fender trimming.

I think the BFH & fender trimming methods are under-utilized because people are afraid of it. It's actually quite easy to do in a few hours with simple hand tools. It doesn't take much effort to make a stock / clean looking job. It's cheap, and keeps the center of gravity low. It may not seem like it, but 1-2" in COG can make huge differences in stability in off-camber situations.

tell me the negative about the masterkit1, seemed like a very good deal for a full 5 inch lift but it seems like you dont like it, you have me double thinking my choice, whats your thoughts?

Not a good deal at all. He's selling you Jeff's 2" spacer lift ($200 total w/ tax & shipping), which means the rest of the kit (3" body lift) is $300. RIP OFF - considering you can get it for $100 - $200 anywhere else, or *gasp* make it yourself for chump change. But - body lifts are THE SUCK. They raise the center of gravity, and don't directly offer any additional frame clearance. And, running anything larger than 31" is the suck - unless you're going to take a massive leap in cost & complexity and go to a Solid Axle Swap (search "SAS"). Stock driveline can't handle anything larger than 31" (really, 31" is the max, I usually recommend 29-30" tires, and lockers). Jeff will have a better idea of what brand of tires should fit under your rig with coil spacers. If they do seem to rub you can live with it (it's usually no big deal), fender cut, BFH - or do a 1" body lift if you have to. MUCH MUCH better than 3" body lift. Remember, each 1" of lift gives you 2" of tire size clearance (since radius of a tire is 1/2 of the diameter of a tire).

You'll hear about people surviving with 33" tires... but... they seem to be the exception, and not the rule.
'96 4 door kick: 29" Pep-Boys M/T, 1.5" OME
'83 SJ410: 31" Toyo M/T, SPOA, 1.3L
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Re: New Guy with a new toy.
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2009, 03:57:43 PM »
I'm running Jeff's 2" kit with 30X9.5 BFG m/ts, on 15x8", 3.75" bs wheels on my 4-door with stock gears. I had to do some inner fender trimming and a little BFH work on the pinch weld that sticks out from the firewall.  They only rub a little with the wheel turned to lock and stuffed all the way up.  A little more BFH work should take care of that. I'd say go for the 30 inchers.  With a 2" lift and 30" tires you'll gain about 3.5-4" more ground crearance, and they're wayyy lighter than the 31's too.
96' Tracker 4-door, 16v, auto, open front, limited slip rear, Jeff1997's 2" lift with diff spacer, 95' mustang shocks, Calmini axle truss, BFG 30x9.5 mud-terrains on 15x8 "D"-windows, trimmed and banged fenders and bumpers, radio shack CB, Tom Tom GPS, 100w KC lights
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Re: New Guy with a new toy.
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2009, 04:07:16 PM »
what do you do with the plastic ineer fender well, just cut it out?
96 Geo Tracker 1.6 16V 3spd auto 2 dr soft top Jeffs 2" spacers, and 30" tires