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I think I want a Samurai for all the wrong reasons. Help

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Offline blacktrack99

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Re: I think I want a Samurai for all the wrong reasons. Help
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2009, 03:21:40 PM »
There are far fewer second gen 2door builds. Is this because they are newer and more expensive, or because they lack bolt on modifications and extreme off road capability?
Love my Gen II 2-door.  Bought it over five years ago for $5k.  Mods are available.  Hang out in the Gen II forum for a little while and you'll see plenty.  Most 2 doors came w/ a 130 hp DOHC 2.0.  And it's never failed to impress me w/ its off-road capability.  Check out the picture thread on the other board, and see what we've built.

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Re: I think I want a Samurai for all the wrong reasons. Help
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2009, 08:43:39 PM »
Cool rig, man  8)
1996 Geo Tracker
1987 Suzuki Samurai soft top
1987 Suzuki Samurai Tin Top
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Re: I think I want a Samurai for all the wrong reasons. Help
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2009, 08:41:09 AM »
Dang you guys make me miss my '94 kick I just sold  >:( Blown engine was too much to fix, so Im getting a new car instead... man I would have LOVED to try that thing in some mud... didn't have time  >:( Should've tried selling it for more, since it was in almost perfect shape. Oh well.

Here are some pics of it - it was bone stock except for the painted interior parts, but you can't say that thing doesn't look good... Might have a tiny bit of girly look, but it's nothing a nice set of oversized A/T tires can't do (I was running on stock 205/75R15, was planning to move to 235/75R15 when I had the chance, along with painting the wheels... didn'T have the luck  :() And don'T mind the stuff in the car, I was going to my gf's home for a week and needed my watercooled computer for school  :laugh:

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Offline Jeremiah

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Re: I think I want a Samurai for all the wrong reasons. Help
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2009, 09:29:06 AM »
Samurai's are alot easier to lift and I find work on but trackers


Depends on the lift. The spring spacers & spring swaps in a tracker can be done in a few hours with basic hand tools.


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Some more info here: http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=25645.0
« Last Edit: July 15, 2009, 09:46:26 AM by Jeremiah »
'96 4 door kick: 29" Pep-Boys M/T, 1.5" OME
'83 SJ410: 31" Toyo M/T, SPOA, 1.3L
'08 Yamaha FZ6

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Offline fieroboy_gt

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Re: I think I want a Samurai for all the wrong reasons. Help
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2009, 11:13:59 AM »
I loved my old sammi. Was really easy to work on an what not. hard to find sammi parts like axles an trannys an what not which is why my old one went to the bone yard. My old sammi with 32x10.5x15 would only do bout 55 but it was alright dont need to go much faster than that anyway. trackers def are more spaciouce. an the solid targa top is cool. I loved my sammi so much i just bought a new one so. i guess to each there own.my votes for the sammi
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Offline Jeremiah

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Re: I think I want a Samurai for all the wrong reasons. Help
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2009, 01:21:12 PM »
That's the big debate between Tracker & Samurai... gearing. It's the Tracker's Achilles Heel of the tracker. For $500 (give or take), it's EASY to correct Samurai gearing. It's probably the largest & most misunderstood advantage of the Samurai.

The Samurai T-case is unique in that it allows gear sets that change both the hi-range (for street use) and low range (for off road) reduction. The only other way to do this is in the diff gears (which is what Jeeps / Toyotas etc use).

Trackers don't have any easy gearing options to handle hi range. You can run a 3-speed auto with 4-speed auto / 5-speed stick diff gears, and be re-geared for 31" tires... but... then you're stuck using a 3-speed (no overdrive). You can swap to Toyota axles (allowing the use of toyota diff gears), but that's complicated for most people... and generally it's just the jump from 5.125:1 (most trackers) to 5.71 (not a big jump). You can run a samurai t-case behind the tracker t-case, and have all the advantages of a Samurai t-case... but that's expensive, and you're looking at running 35"+ tires.

So - I generally recommend Samurais for people running 31-33" tires, and trackers for running 27-31" or 35"+
'96 4 door kick: 29" Pep-Boys M/T, 1.5" OME
'83 SJ410: 31" Toyo M/T, SPOA, 1.3L
'08 Yamaha FZ6