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Offline chrisvitarasport94

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sway bar disconnect
« on: April 14, 2005, 05:12:05 AM »
have seen this mentioned before, and can imagine benefits, but...
does this put more strain on CV by allowing more articulation....
or does the strut/spring geometry govern the overall droop available, so that this just allows better droop independant of what the other wheel is doing ???

don't want to put unnecessary strain on bits needed to get me home!
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Offline Bobzooki

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Re: sway bar disconnect
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2005, 05:17:14 AM »
If you manually disconnect the sway bar, or put in a disconnect, it allows the wheels to articulate better, and independently.  You WILL get more body lean in corners, but I haven't found this to be too much of a problem.  I haven't had a sway-bar now for about 2 years, and I don't miss it.

I gave my sway-bar, with the cool Rotational-Dynamics Prototype disconnect welded into it, to Heather, for somebody in Idaho, I think.
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Offline Bobzooki

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Re: sway bar disconnect
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2005, 05:23:23 AM »
Here's a pic of that sway bar, with a close-up of the disconnect:

Bob

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Offline Cwkick

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Re: sway bar disconnect
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2005, 05:25:59 AM »
I thought of doing the same thing with a piece of pipe, a bolt, and a pin.  I ditched the whole sway bar instead.

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Offline SnoFalls

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Re: sway bar disconnect
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2005, 06:10:32 AM »
Yea .. ditch the sway bar ... I hardly notice it's missing on the road (then again I don't slalom the trac much either :) )
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Offline chrisvitarasport94

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Re: sway bar disconnect
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2005, 06:34:01 AM »
yeah, not to concerned about on the road, more about the down side risks off road
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Offline Digger

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Re: sway bar disconnect
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2005, 06:50:33 AM »
The strut actually dictates the total amount that the arm can droop. The sway bar just connects left and right together. Disconnecting the sway bar or removing it wont allow the arms to droop any further than they do now, it just allows them to work independently of each other.

I removed the swaybar from the green Tracker and didn't even notice any difference in handling over stock. I plan on removing the swaybar from my silver one also...
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Offline chrisvitarasport94

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Re: sway bar disconnect
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2005, 08:13:48 AM »
thank you, that clarifies what I thought
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Offline madvitara

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Re: sway bar disconnect
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2005, 08:20:01 AM »
Just be brave and bin it chris i threw mine away weeks ago, you hardly notice its gone on the road and off the road i recon you get more grip. At huntsham on sunday i tested the sideway stability to near the limits! no one else would drive up the same gully after watching me!!!!  A sway bar would not have helped at all (one front wheel in the air by 3'+)

I'm still a bit busy this week but I'll call in next time im passing.

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mudfkr

Re: sway bar disconnect
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2005, 08:39:02 AM »
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(one front wheel in the air by 3'+)


What type of lockers are you running ?
« Last Edit: April 14, 2005, 08:40:04 AM by mudfkr »

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Offline madvitara

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Re: sway bar disconnect
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2005, 08:42:09 AM »
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What type of lockers are you running ?


No lockers just brave and it was a deep gulley, only took a couple of attemps to get it out

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mudfkr

Re: sway bar disconnect
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2005, 08:53:44 AM »
3' of air under the tire no lockers and you kept moving foward?? impressive !!  got any pix ??

Mine  normally loses traction  as soon as the front tire lifts unless the lockers on in which case it will crawl up most things on 3 wheels.

 

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Offline madvitara

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Re: sway bar disconnect
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2005, 09:10:24 AM »
it was a case of having grip on the fronts and floor it then grip on the rears and floor it, scared the passenger lots too. My mate was to slow getting the camera out to get a pic, we where going to go back and do it again to take some pics, but my mate then broke his sami T-box and we called it a day

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Offline Rhinoman

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Re: sway bar disconnect
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2005, 09:36:11 AM »
I ditched my sway bar cos I found that with the strut spacers the sway bar fouled on the steering linkage on max. droop. I did notice a big difference in the handling - lots of understeer. Cured this with more offset on the rims. I tried disconnecting it once but it swung down and one end tore a CV boot which led to a trashed driveshaft. I wondered about the disconnect. Do you have any trouble getting the pin back in, I would think the wheels would have to be pretty level. Also putting a much stiffer part in the middle, doesn't that affect the amount the bar can twist? How does it behave. The real problem as i see it is getting to it as it would be behind the bash plate.
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Re: sway bar disconnect
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2005, 12:01:11 PM »
hey bob , heather gave me that sway bar. i built my own strut spacers(2 in.) i dont have my pull pin in , and drive it down the freeway everyday at 70 mph and havent had a problem with the cv angles. love it,articulates awesome.