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Blown 3.8 or the Good ole 4.3L vortec

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Re: Blown 3.8 or the Good ole 4.3L vortec
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2005, 07:13:59 PM »
D44's out of a Scout II.

I got a set if you want em.... 8) Cheap too, I've been wantin to get rid of em!
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Re: Blown 3.8 or the Good ole 4.3L vortec
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2005, 07:24:52 PM »
depends on where ya live... shipping can make cheap into more expensive...
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Re: Blown 3.8 or the Good ole 4.3L vortec
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2005, 07:47:48 PM »
 Chev made a supercharged 4.3 for the S-10 in the early to mid 90's it was called

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!A CYCLONE OR A TYPHOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That would be way to cool
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Re: Blown 3.8 or the Good ole 4.3L vortec
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2005, 07:52:54 PM »
 Oh ya I forgot, they were all wheel drive to, fast enough to out run a corvette on a tight course (read it in a mag a few years back) probably hard to find but would be fun

 Steve :)
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Re: Blown 3.8 or the Good ole 4.3L vortec
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2005, 09:23:05 PM »
yeah i don't think i'll be putting a blown 4.3L in that would just break to much stuff... probably start snapping an upgraded yoda drivetrain.  Nice thought though.
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Re: Blown 3.8 or the Good ole 4.3L vortec
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2005, 09:28:20 PM »
Yeah, those Typhoons or whatever made close to 300hp stock.

And that 4.3/Np205/D44s sounds kick ass.

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Re: Blown 3.8 or the Good ole 4.3L vortec
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2005, 09:31:22 PM »
heh a blown 3.8 series III will knock a 4.3L down for the count :) as far as torque ad speed.  So with the new axels and and tranny/transfercase i should eat any 4.3L kick for lunch :)  as long as i don't snap axles which is kinda why i wanted your guys opinions on the two motors.
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Re: Blown 3.8 or the Good ole 4.3L vortec
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2005, 09:32:19 PM »
Uhh  No, not quite, there was a Typhoon and a Syclone
The Typhoon was an S-10 Blazer, and the Syclone was
an S-10 Pickup, they were TurboCharged, not Blown, and
they beat the Vets in the 1/4 mile, along with most other
cars of the same year.

They were boosted to 15 PSI and had all wheel drive, no
Tcase, tho I thought one worked into a 4X4 would be cool

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Re: Blown 3.8 or the Good ole 4.3L vortec
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2005, 09:38:08 PM »
good point and unfortuantly i'd rather supercharge than turbo simply because there are a few more pluses to the SuperCharger verse the turbo.  So a typhoon is outta the question.

off topic from here.  oh for those of you who think turbos are a notch above chargers,  a supercharger gives you 100% boost from the time you touch the peddle to the time you let off, and the boost is tottally scalable to the charger via overdriving and underdriving the charger.  So they actually provide instant power versus  the lagged turbo charging method.  Yeah yeah you can push more boost with a turbo and change the amount of boost you push quicker via a turbo but dang Turbo lag sucks off the line when the guy with the supercharger has that 40% power boost off the line and you get it an 1/4 mile later....  anyways thats my little off topic blurb.
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Re: Blown 3.8 or the Good ole 4.3L vortec
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2005, 09:44:51 PM »
Well, I get 5 PSI boost in about 15 feet, after which the
boost keeps climbing to a total of 9 PSI, about 4 PSI and
about 40% more output than a supercharger can maintain.

Lag is mostly from mis matched turbos on ricers, because
bigger is better to all ricers.

Each has it's plusses and minuses, you pick which one you
want to deal with, it's a choice, I would have supercharged
if I could of found one, Turbos are all over the place.

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Re: Blown 3.8 or the Good ole 4.3L vortec
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2005, 09:50:58 PM »
yeah i agree mismatched turbos are the source to that issue, but finding a small turbo that matches a 1.6L is kinda  pain.  I know closest thing i found was a turbo from a chrysler 2.2 and that would still generate sufficient lag to me.  even though i have a supercharger for a 6cyl that i could underdrive like crazy and make work with the proper amount of adapter plates.  Yeah i was originally going to turbo my 1.6L to get my power fix but decided against it after the work involved and price and the inability to push over 4 psi to the engine without damaging it. (D*** 2 bolt main's)
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Re: Blown 3.8 or the Good ole 4.3L vortec
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2005, 09:55:28 PM »
2 bolt main SideKick engines can take/make 200 HP

Try a Turbo from a 1.8L Subaru, or a Mazda 1.6L MX3
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Re: Blown 3.8 or the Good ole 4.3L vortec
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2005, 10:00:00 PM »
ok the matter of doing the work and not breaking things you will havve a prob with both, I do agree on the one thing the 3.8 will be lighter and punchier........the 4.3 is bulletproof but only a little bt more than the 3.8......SAS this  one tho cuz both engines will set you back in driveline costs on IFS...I  don't think that there is an upgrade out there that will let you keep the IFS and still tromp on the go pedal unless you are on Ice and just spinning.

the only reason i know is that the was a customer of mine that has Yota with a 3800 s/c and he would snap the front shafts alot.

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Re: Blown 3.8 or the Good ole 4.3L vortec
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2005, 10:03:12 PM »
Reduce traction, tires that slip don't break axles/CVs
MTs have less traction on Pavement and rocks than
ATs, so choise wisely and avoid breakage
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Re: Blown 3.8 or the Good ole 4.3L vortec
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2005, 10:06:07 PM »
i'm curious about that because of the fact that the pontiac GTPs have IFS and hold up to the 3800 s/c so the trick may be to find a heavier duty IFS to put in instead of the yota system.  the other plus is i rarely use my 4 wheel drive around here except in mud/snow so thats another factor.  Oh right now my 1.6L will chirp a 33 my wild country's displace the wieght in the rear end enough all i do is spin tires in the winter.  with lockers i would be breaking shafts left and right i know that much, but i also don'tplan on doing any burnouts with my kick either so...
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