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fuel pump relay clicking fast???
« on: October 22, 2012, 03:24:39 PM »
So I got my first Tracker the other day, a 96 4 dr, not running. When I turn the key on the fuel pump relay engages over and over, I put a new relay in its place and same issue
As I investigated further I found who ever had it before I did basically welded/soldered the 80 amp main battery fuseable link together and I imagine was running it with out the fuse :-\
Could this be a fried ECM or another issue? Im no pro but I have had my experience behind a wrench and I am at a loss here... Any ideas?? Thanks
1996 4dr track 16v automatic

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Re: fuel pump relay clicking fast???
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2012, 07:13:02 PM »
no ideas huh... thats about where I am at... as of now with a good battery in I turn the key and get a quick beep but no dash lights, no relay engagements, nothing... I'm pretty stumped.
1996 4dr track 16v automatic

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Re: fuel pump relay clicking fast???
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2012, 08:04:15 PM »
I haven't worked on wiring issues for a while (and have limited memory storage), but when the key is turned on the fuel pump should run for a short period (5-10 seconds) then shut off until the motor runs (I think it is rpm's).

I would look at other wiring issues before investing in new ECU.  My experience is that they are more robust than advertised.
I suspect that there is a short in the wiring and they hard wired the fuse to keep things working, which may have melted some wires together.  Check your other fuses and make sure they are correct size (a larger fuse than normal may be an indication of blowing normal fuse).
Ok, checked the FSM.  
Fuel Pump Relay Pins
  • #1  Blk/W    hot all the time - relay coil pwr
  • #2  Blu/Blk   hotwhen key on - relay contact pwr
  • #3  Pnk       to ecm for grnd to relay coil - should be 0 volts for 5-10 seconds when key on, then float to battery voltage
  • #4  Pnk/Blk   pwr to fuel pmp - should be 12v for 5-10 seconds when key on then 0v until motor runs

Check that #2 pin is alway hot when key on.  If it is cycling that means the main relay is cycling which is why the fuel pmp cycles (a break in input pwr).
 
Check Fuse Block 1 FI fuse 15 amp (under hood)  Pwr to Main relay switch, Fuel pmp switch
Check Fuse Block 2 IG-Coil fuse 15 amp (under dash) Pwr to CEL/MIL, Main relay coil, Fuel pmp relay coil

Hope this helps.  Helpful to know 5 spd., or which auto?
« Last Edit: October 23, 2012, 10:30:49 PM by BRD HNTR »
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Re: fuel pump relay clicking fast???
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2012, 06:25:58 PM »
The fuel pump should run for 3 seconds at key on.
The 96 ECMs rarely go bad. 
On the older trackicks (89-94ish), a chattering relay was a good indication of a bad ECM.
From what you are describing on the wiring situation, I'd look closely at the wiring being the issue.
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Re: fuel pump relay clicking fast???
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2012, 08:10:25 AM »
UPDATE!so the PO did quite the hack job on the wiring.... After hours of searching through it and repairing bad splice jobs, corroded wires, poor grounds, and removing add-wires the track runs great!

Next project timing equipment and check crank pulley/key-way.
1996 4dr track 16v automatic