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Re: Front outer driver side axle keeps pulling out
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2018, 09:52:53 AM »
Pick a Part 30 year old axles and get them rebuilt I guess

I cut an end off of a broken axle so with the spacer I'm hoping to stop it from pulling out
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Re: Front outer driver side axle keeps pulling out
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2018, 06:55:59 PM »
Mine were sourced from the local dealer - not exactly an option in North American now that Suzuki has pulled out of the market.
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Re: Front outer driver side axle keeps pulling out
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2018, 09:58:56 AM »
Do you have a link or suggested vendor to get the rebuild kit from that has the ring?
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Re: Front outer driver side axle keeps pulling out
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2018, 04:43:08 AM »
Assuming the groove for the ring is present & undamaged, the ring is normally supplied in the boot kit - at least the OEM kits have them.
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Re: Front outer driver side axle keeps pulling out
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2018, 10:16:27 AM »
turns out the axle is supposed to have an outer retaining ring which after taking mine apart was gone.  the one I ordered came in but was too long so now I'm waiting again for a shorter one.  It's like a saga to get this fixed.  Hopefully the Pick apart has one soon as a backup at least
92 Sidekick 1.6L 16v Calmini\OME 4.5" lift 3" Body Lift OME962 springs in front w\.75" spacers OME955 in rear w\1.75" spacers Extreme Duty Strut Eliminator kit and rear ProComp MX6 Shocks 31X10.50 Nexen M\T   Thorley Header   2" exhaust  Calmini front truss bar and stabilizer and skids   Custom Bumpers and Rock Rails  Limit Straps

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Re: Front outer driver side axle keeps pulling out
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2018, 12:50:50 PM »
I believe so.  It is from a 92 sidekick
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Re: Front outer driver side axle keeps pulling out
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2018, 07:54:27 PM »
Is it a tulip/tripod style CV?
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Re: Front outer driver side axle keeps pulling out
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2018, 01:51:34 PM »
So it appears there is supposed to be a ring on the axle to hold it in and the new axles don't have it.  The Axle rebuilder says my axle is shot and it is going to be $150 to get the right parts to fix what I have.  No fun but I guess it is an expensive hobby
92 Sidekick 1.6L 16v Calmini\OME 4.5" lift 3" Body Lift OME962 springs in front w\.75" spacers OME955 in rear w\1.75" spacers Extreme Duty Strut Eliminator kit and rear ProComp MX6 Shocks 31X10.50 Nexen M\T   Thorley Header   2" exhaust  Calmini front truss bar and stabilizer and skids   Custom Bumpers and Rock Rails  Limit Straps

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Re: Front outer driver side axle keeps pulling out
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2018, 11:02:26 PM »
I think you are right on about the snap ring.  I'm taking it to a rebuilder to ask about your suggestion and see what we can come up with - Thank you and I appreciate the explanation as I was stuck and that put me in the right mind set
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Re: Front outer driver side axle keeps pulling out
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2018, 03:12:14 PM »
Consider the weld suggestion as a random thought that needs further development - you would need to find a machinist willing to work with you to even determine if it's feasible - it might be easier to look for a good used OEM shaft.
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Re: Front outer driver side axle keeps pulling out
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2018, 02:19:12 PM »
Now I know why the suggestion is to use original shafts.  I have the original inner shaft that goes into the differential and aftermarket going from the 3 bolt (Tulip) to the hub with a snap ring.  I need to either get a OEM shaft from a pick a part or weld as you stated correct?
92 Sidekick 1.6L 16v Calmini\OME 4.5" lift 3" Body Lift OME962 springs in front w\.75" spacers OME955 in rear w\1.75" spacers Extreme Duty Strut Eliminator kit and rear ProComp MX6 Shocks 31X10.50 Nexen M\T   Thorley Header   2" exhaust  Calmini front truss bar and stabilizer and skids   Custom Bumpers and Rock Rails  Limit Straps

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Re: Front outer driver side axle keeps pulling out
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2018, 08:46:53 AM »
What are you describing as the "outer axle"?  Is the CV axle pulling out of the inner CV joint?

There are two types of inner CV in use, the Glaenzer (commonly known as a tripod or tulip joint), and the more common Rzeppa, with 6 steel balls - OEM axles use the Rzeppa for both inner & outer joints, most after market have a Rzeppa for the outer CV, and a Glaenzer for the inner CV - the inner joints on the OEM axles have a retaining ring to stop them pulling apart, the after market axles don't use them - this may be your problem.

I'd be tempted to machine a circular "cap ring" and tack weld it to the outer end of the tulip on the aftermarket shaft - where it would serve two purposes - the first being to prevent the axle from separating and the second to strengthen the tulip.
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Front outer driver side axle keeps pulling out
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2018, 06:21:20 PM »
I am having an issue when I go through any kind of terrain that flexes the CV Axle shaft.  It seems the outer axle just pulls right out of the boot.  I have limit straps and this just started happening.  Has anyone ever experienced this?  Are the after market shafts just too short?  it used to work great with the stock shaft but I don't know if something bent or is out of whack.  It was aligned and all the front end components have been changed.  I have the EDSE kit installed with the Calmini 3" suspension lift so I have drop brackets as well.

Any ideas are welcomed - Thanks
92 Sidekick 1.6L 16v Calmini\OME 4.5" lift 3" Body Lift OME962 springs in front w\.75" spacers OME955 in rear w\1.75" spacers Extreme Duty Strut Eliminator kit and rear ProComp MX6 Shocks 31X10.50 Nexen M\T   Thorley Header   2" exhaust  Calmini front truss bar and stabilizer and skids   Custom Bumpers and Rock Rails  Limit Straps