Friends, I have a SPoA Samurai with ~10" of travel through bilstein shocks in front and stock shocks in the rear. The front articulates quite nicely but the rear wheel does lift of the ground (due to limitation of stock shocks).
I am running "Composite fiber leaf springs" in both front & back.

Now, I have a set of 2 revolver shackles and would need your advise on where to put them and how. My needs are better articulation on the trail (a sand terrain). I am not worried about road behavior




So, should I put the revolver shackles in front or back?

If I put it in front, and get more articulation, then won't it mean that the rear will lift even more easier? (because, my front already articulates enough)

If i put these in ear, then won't the articulation (from these revolver shackles)  be hampered by the stock shocks I have?

If you continue to run the stock shocks in the rear you won't have a limited articulation problem back there much longer.... They are gonna give out!  Why not take them off and measure the articulation for the shocks you need.

Once you purchase the new longer shocks you might not want to put the revolvers on. after all the shackles aren't really your problem.

Hey khan_sultan, it's been a while!  I thought you replaced those leaf springs after breaking a few and went back to stock ones.  How is the wheeling back home?

tuxblacray is correct about needing longer shocks before the shackles will do you any good in the rear.  As for the front, if you have enough room they should help with the flex.  The reason your rear tire is coming off of the ground is due the limits of your suspension being reached.  Once that happens the weight needs to transfer, in the case of your rear tire tipping in the air the weight of the front suspension pulling down is lifting it into the air.  With the additional flex on the front end you will be able to drop that front tire a bit further without hitting the limits of your suspension.

This only covers when climbing rocks, or other items that allow the object that causes your tire to lift to transfer is the weight of that corner of the axle.  If you are climbing down something the flex on the front end is not likely to matter and your rear tire will still lift off the ground.

................. after all the shackles aren't really your problem.

Thanks buddy. I get what you are saying and need to work on that aspect

Hey khan_sultan, it's been a while!  I thought you replaced those leaf springs after breaking a few and went back to stock ones.  How is the wheeling back home?

tuxblacray is correct about needing longer shocks before the shackles will do you any good in the rear. ....

Hi Drone637. Yeah it's been a while and have been off the wheeling scene for some time due to work pressures. Am starting again and building the vehicle for the next competitive event (99.9% sand trail). Have broken 3 sets of Composite leafs and went back to stock and now again have got a much stronger (or so the manufacturer claims) set again for the front. Will try them out.

Again, thanks for your help and will work on addressing the rear shocks aspect.