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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: legrandgazou on April 25, 2006, 08:02:54 PM
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Is there some ways to make that 1.6 giving more...I mean "cheap ways"
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Best bangs for the buck....
1) Make sure it is running right and is well tuned
2) K&N airfilter insert in the stock box
3) 2 1/4" exhaust with a Turbo type muffler from manifold to the bumper
Woke mine right up, snappier, generally more power across the board........side benefit
Gas a solid jump in gas mileage.
Hope that helps
Zag
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I have the tune, 2 inch exhaust, but not the K&N. Will it still help out?
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For sure
The insert lets the engine breath better, bear in mind that the filter by itself will likely not make a difference you can feel but should show up in gas mileage.
Beyond that basic stuff you start to spend larger money so I hope it works for you.
Zag
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Works for me especially since gas hit $3.20 today K&N gets some more cash this weekend
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Sorry no sympathy at $3.20
Fuel here is $4.36 per US gallon today
Zag
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ouch
I'm trying to learn how to make biodiesel since there are none in my area
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Check the timing and add about 5 degrees, as long as it doesn't ping. :)
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ouch
I'm trying to learn how to make biodiesel since there are none in my area
Look at this page and follow the links if you want to learn
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_aleksnew.html
Wild
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It costs more, but a header definitely helps, too!
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Great link
the thorley header is on the wish list
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2) K&N airfilter insert in the stock box
3) 2 1/4" exhaust with a Turbo type muffler from manifold to the bumper
whats everyones take on the difference between the insert and the cone filters???
what about 2" exhaust instead of 2 1/4"???
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Difference between cone and insert is how much you want to spend and what kind of driving you do...
Insert is the least expensive and generically the most practical for off road use.
Cone is great for pavement running and rice rockets but can lead to problems off road, tends to cost a little more too.
2" vs 2 1/4" exhaust
Mathmatically the optimum is the 2 1/4 for the 1.6 8 and 16 valve engines...2 inch will work just fine but if you are doing an exhaust might as well go for what should be the optimum.
Zag
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Difference between cone and insert is how much you want to spend and what kind of driving you do...
Insert is the least expensive and generically the most practical for off road use.
Cone is great for pavement running and rice rockets but can lead to problems off road, tends to cost a little more too.
2" vs 2 1/4" exhaust
Mathmatically the optimum is the 2 1/4 for the 1.6 8 and 16 valve engines...2 inch will work just fine but if you are doing an exhaust might as well go for what should be the optimum.
Zag
first off
YOU RULE
those answers are freakin great
(im a little thrown back)
I intend to do my exhaust (very soon)
why is a 2.25 better than a 2, optimally?
what about when split to dual pipe (mathematically?)
this is what I wanted
Header -> CAT -> Muffler -> Duals
(so Im doing research into each one)
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If you go to your local library you can get a reference book on Sonic waves and pulses...
In it you can find the formulas to work out the optimum diameter and lenghts of intake and exhaust systems.......then apply it "practically" to different applications.
Sorta like this...
Take the displacement of an engine and the rpm...there is a formula to calculate the volume of the pulse entering the exhaust.
Knowing the size of the port lets you calculate close to the optimum velocity for the exhaust gas.
Working back further you can figure the maximum diameter of the tube to maintain the velocity.
Takes a little work but you can figure out how big you can go without reducing the velocity of the exhaust gas...while creating the minimum backpressure.
Then you back it up by building a few and proving the results...
Best performance best value I have found is a 2 1/4" exhaust with a high quality Turbo type muffler.....if you can afford it get a "Good" header that has ports that match the shape of the exhaust ports. (and a CAT if law requires in your area).
Split exhaust are for looks....doesn't do diddly for the performance...but if it's the look you want go for it.
Zag
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Best performance best value I have found is a 2 1/4" exhaust with a high quality Turbo type muffler.....if you can afford it get a "Good" header that has ports that match the shape of the exhaust ports. (and a CAT if law requires in your area).
Split exhaust are for looks....doesn't do diddly for the performance...but if it's the look you want go for it.
Yeah a CAT is required. I just dont want to jeopardize efficiency when I run duals.
Since running a 2.25 gets pretty good power (+back pressure) wouldnt that stand
to assume running dual 2"s would be alright as well
(or would power/back pressure be all screwed up)
And yeah, its pretty much for looks. (which is why it would be split after the muffler)
muffler with two outlets
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muffler with one outlet then split pipe
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At what point are you looking at splitting for duals?
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muffler with two outlets
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muffler with one outlet then split pipe
At what point are you looking at splitting for duals?
right there
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As long as it is a quality low restriction muffler I don't think that far back in the system it will make much difference....
I personally would not do it as it adds weight and un needed complexity....but hey I wouldn't be worrying about looks.
If you gotta have the look I don't think it will hurt if it is after the muffler.
Zag
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As long as it is a quality low restriction muffler I don't think that far back in the system it will make much difference....
I personally would not do it as it adds weight and un needed complexity....but hey I wouldn't be worrying about looks.
If you gotta have the look I don't think it will hurt if it is after the muffler.
So I should look for a "low restriction muffler" then
And yeah, I wouldnt run duals either
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OK great, now where can i find that insert thing?
And for the exhaust what happen with catalytic, to put the 2 1/4 pipe from the header, so where can i find the header to fit 2 1/4 pipe?
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http://www.knfilters.com/
for filters