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Title: Tires?
Post by: ripsnort on February 20, 2008, 09:46:57 AM
Just bought a 88' Sami and it needs tires... I want to stay with stock size and can't find anything that has an aggressive tread.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Tires?
Post by: MaD.72 on February 20, 2008, 09:50:07 AM
What size are you looking for??
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Post by: ripsnort on February 20, 2008, 10:35:20 AM
I have been told that I can go to a 215/75/15 stock is 205/70/15...
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Post by: big_kountry21 on February 20, 2008, 10:39:38 AM
on a stock height trakkick with stock wheels you can put 235/75/15 w/o rubbing.
Title: Re: Tires?
Post by: ripsnort on February 20, 2008, 10:47:37 AM
on a stock height trakkick with stock wheels you can put 235/75/15 w/o rubbing.

Okay, being a total NEWBIE what is a trakkick? 
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Post by: big_kountry21 on February 20, 2008, 10:48:52 AM
tracker/ sidekick..... what are you putting tires on?
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Post by: big_kountry21 on February 20, 2008, 10:56:45 AM
88 sammi......  try putting the 235/75/15's you can find a mud terrain.
Title: Re: Tires?
Post by: ripsnort on February 20, 2008, 10:58:07 AM
1988 Samurai.  Just bought it yesterday and the tires are shot.  I want to get something that is a somewhat aggressive since I do go off road frequently.
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Post by: big_kountry21 on February 20, 2008, 10:59:05 AM
well you want m/t or a/t
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Post by: ripsnort on February 20, 2008, 11:02:09 AM
88 sammi......  try putting the 235/75/15's you can find a mud terrain.

It has 205/75/15 on it now and just by looking it sure doesn't look like 235/75/15 would fit.  Like I mentioned I am total Newb to Suzuki, if you can confirm that these will fit I will go with them as it will open up my options greatly.  I would like to go with a MT.
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Post by: big_kountry21 on February 20, 2008, 11:03:51 AM
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=Radial+Mud+Rover&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=375R5MROV&fromCompare1=yes&place=58

235's will definitely check the link out.
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Post by: MaD.72 on February 20, 2008, 11:07:27 AM
Check here they have 215/75r15..
http://www.hankooktireusa.com/product/tire_detail.asp?pid=358 (ftp://http://www.hankooktireusa.com/product/tire_detail.asp?pid=358)
Title: Re: Tires?
Post by: big_kountry21 on February 20, 2008, 11:07:45 AM
http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=18315.0
they fit the trackick they should fit the sammi
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Post by: MaD.72 on February 20, 2008, 11:11:22 AM
Or maybe this...
http://www.intercotire.com/site29.php (ftp://http://www.intercotire.com/site29.php)
Title: Re: Tires?
Post by: ripsnort on February 20, 2008, 11:17:35 AM
Thanks for all the help!  I think that I will be going with some 235's now that I have read what you guys have said.   ;D ;D
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Post by: big_kountry21 on February 20, 2008, 11:22:20 AM
get er dun.........................
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Post by: LilRed on February 20, 2008, 02:36:46 PM
235s will rub on a Sami.  You can beat the seam down on the inside of the wheel well and trim the front bumper if its stock to get them to fit, but they will still rub when flexing offroad.  You might be able to find a wheel combo that would work or live with the rubbing til you can get a lift on it.  The Sami on the far left in this pic is running 235s with no lift.  Ran it like that for a few years.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f101/nooptions/PaddysBluff.jpg)
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Post by: Yote on February 20, 2008, 02:56:39 PM
Don't know how much you are looking to spend but BFGoodrich makes both there M/T & A/T KO's in 215x75R15.
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Post by: bashzuk on February 20, 2008, 08:26:24 PM
I would have to say that you may be in for having to lift your Sammy a little bit if you don't want any rubbing I had to bring my Sammy up about an inch in order to clear the 235's with out rubbing.


88 Samurai with 2 inch longer shackles(equals 1 inch lift) and 235 Wildcat A/T's
(http://www.reachone.com/bashams/Suzuki/ZukiLeftSide122004.jpg)
This is what mine looked like after a 1 inch shackle lift.

Course you could just go for the whole shebang and lift it buy some 31's and have it look like this.
(http://www.reachone.com/bashams/Suzuki/830A0011.jpg)
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Post by: big_kountry21 on February 20, 2008, 08:29:45 PM
thats pretty sweet
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Post by: mrfuelish on February 21, 2008, 02:51:29 PM
With out gears of some kind the 235's will suck alot of horse power out of it, mine would only do 45 up a hill.
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Post by: bashzuk on February 21, 2008, 06:20:13 PM
really? I actually had no trouble with the 235's and power and I drove it to work and back at 60?
course there are so many factors that play into that.
:P
engine condition, exhaust condition, weight of person (Course I'm a fat ass at 280), weight taken out of vehicle.
Title: Re: Tires?
Post by: big_kountry21 on February 21, 2008, 11:03:54 PM
yeah mine's got 235's and i got no problems with hills. i do like 70 up a hill in 4th ofcourse.
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Post by: TrakJD on February 22, 2008, 11:12:45 AM
235's or 29 inch swamper tsl.
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Post by: ripsnort on February 22, 2008, 04:45:40 PM
Bashzuk, that second picture is the shite.  I would love to make it look like that but this is a daily driver as I already have a 72 CJ5 with all full size chevy under it.  I ended up getting some 215/75/15 since the guy at the tire store gave me a look like I was nuts for even asking about 235's.  Next I need to get the exhaust fixed is looks like swiss cheese and see if that improved the power.  I have done some reading regarding the stock carb and was wondering what is involved in going to the weber and loosing the smog stuff since I don't need emissions where I live.  Anyone gone this route?

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff216/ripsnort/BowmanLakeTrip023-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Tires?
Post by: big_kountry21 on February 22, 2008, 07:15:37 PM
well i would have told him that its not his rig.
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Post by: TrakJD on February 22, 2008, 08:49:57 PM
I get that all the damn time.  People giving me the look as if I dont know what Im doing.  One time at  Les Schwab tire retailer, I asked for 33's for my samurai, They gave me the look.  I said "ohh duh me the sami is stock.  So gimme 33's."  And the store manager who knows my mom, He approached the counter and said "I know him, he got a project going on."  The tire tech just backed off.  Jeez.
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Post by: big_kountry21 on February 23, 2008, 08:37:39 AM
see around here that don't happen.....i never get second guessed.
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Post by: Yote on February 23, 2008, 11:00:00 AM
I was a tire guy for 3 years at a local tire shop and you would be surprised at how many people come in to get over sized tires on their trucks and suvs (mostly Jeep guys) and never look into see what fits and what hits and don't know they need a lift.
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Post by: kubik1981 on February 23, 2008, 11:18:09 AM
http://treadwright.com/Tires-235_75R15_OTR-P6.aspx, i was given this website when i was looking for mud tires on my 90 tracker.  And i have 235's on mine no prob
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Post by: mrfuelish on February 23, 2008, 12:05:54 PM
You guys with the trackers with 1.6 16 valve engines and 5.13 gears must have never driven a stock sammie with a 1.3 engine and 3.73 gears, there is just a little difference.  ::)
Title: Re: Tires?
Post by: Yote on February 23, 2008, 01:34:00 PM
[url]http://treadwright.com/Tires-235_75R15_OTR-P6.aspx,[/url] i was given this website when i was looking for mud tires on my 90 tracker.  And i have 235's on mine no prob


Retreads are nice as long as you use them when it's cold but I wouldn't recommend them for summer use.
Title: Re: Tires?
Post by: big_kountry21 on February 23, 2008, 02:04:02 PM
dumb people piss me off...
Title: Re: Tires?
Post by: bashzuk on February 23, 2008, 05:13:39 PM
Bashzuk, that second picture is the shite.  I would love to make it look like that but this is a daily driver as I already have a 72 CJ5 with all full size chevy under it.  I ended up getting some 215/75/15 since the guy at the tire store gave me a look like I was nuts for even asking about 235's.  Next I need to get the exhaust fixed is looks like swiss cheese and see if that improved the power.  I have done some reading regarding the stock carb and was wondering what is involved in going to the weber and loosing the smog stuff since I don't need emissions where I live.  Anyone gone this route?

([url]http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff216/ripsnort/BowmanLakeTrip023-1.jpg[/url])


Rip just curious did you have your rig with you when you went to the tire store?
Also if you take the time to explain to the store clerk what you are trying to do and being friendly, this has made all my interactions with most tire shops a good experience.
The reason non off road shop tire stores a wary of selling you tires that may not fit a stock rig is because you have people the buy tires that do not fit the rig they go on then they end up tearing up the tires and blaming the people they bought the tires from.
This is the reason costco will not sell you tires that are not manufacturer spec.

Anyway on to the carb question
I had a buddy who had the webber and couldn't get it tuned correctly ever.
I would buy a rebuild kit for the stock carb and the vent tube fix and see if that does it.

Too bad you don't live in Marysville Washington a stock exhaust was on craigslist yesterday for 50 bucks.

Now about the retread comment does the bonding agent heat up and come apart in hotter weather kubik? I was thinking about getting a set for my tow rig.

Also big_kountry who was the dumb people piss you off comment directed at?
Title: Re: Tires?
Post by: Yote on February 23, 2008, 06:30:44 PM

Now about the retread comment does the bonding agent heat up and come apart in hotter weather kubik? I was thinking about getting a set for my tow rig.


Just look at tractor trailers, in the winter how many tractor trailer recaps do you see on the side of the road - hardly any but in the summer they are all over the road, when the gluing compound gets hot it gives way and they fly off the tire.
Title: Re: Tires?
Post by: big_kountry21 on February 23, 2008, 06:36:22 PM
I was a tire guy for 3 years at a local tire shop and you would be surprised at how many people come in to get over sized tires on their trucks and suvs (mostly Jeep guys) and never look into see what fits and what hits and don't know they need a lift.


those guys^
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Title: Re: Tires?
Post by: Yote on February 23, 2008, 06:39:04 PM
I was a tire guy for 3 years at a local tire shop and you would be surprised at how many people come in to get over sized tires on their trucks and suvs (mostly Jeep guys) and never look into see what fits and what hits and don't know they need a lift.


those guys^
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And what about "those guy's" pisses you off?
Title: Re: Tires?
Post by: big_kountry21 on February 23, 2008, 06:43:12 PM
well someone buys a jeep and automatically assume they can put 35"s and they don't have a clue.
Title: Re: Tires?
Post by: Yote on February 23, 2008, 06:48:47 PM
Oh ok bro. I thought you were talking about the tire techs pissing you off my bad  sorry :-X
Title: Re: Tires?
Post by: ripsnort on February 24, 2008, 09:14:06 AM
I did have the sami with me when I went to the store and the guy that was helping me was great.  He said that he had personally attempted to put 235's on a stock Samurai and that they rubbed the front fender when turning.  I then asked about 225's and he said that he had not tried that size but was able to show me with a 215 that happend to be on stock rim and at the store how little clearance there was in the front at about half turn.  I believed him and went with the 215's as this really is just a daily driver and I don't want to open a can of worms with gearing and all that.  As for the carb question I think I will have the exhaust repaired/replaced and see how it runs.  If not as good as I would expect I guess it's a rebuild kit for me.