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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: dingus on January 08, 2009, 08:39:39 PM
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OK im now looking at Winchs and to be Honest i cant see needing a 8000LB superwinch.
They Weigh a ton sitting on the front bumper.
Because the Tracker is a Smaller Rig why not buy a 3000 LB Superwinch then just Double the line thru a Snatch block :)
The 3000 Lb or even 2000 Lb would pull out a Stuck tracker i figger.
Them 8000 LB ones could tear the bumper right off if ya raelly got Pulling. the Tracker dont have that Heavy a frame.
Anyway ideas on what others have used on there Sidekicks Suzukis Trackers Ect ???
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I would go with a 6000lb winch. 2000lb winches are for UTV's.
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Ya i just found out the little ones are useless.
Im looking at a 8000 LB Super winch. I wish i could find a 5000 or 6000 Lb one tho.
Canadian Tire has the 8000s for $399
I think there About 80 Lbs or so tho. Heavy suckers.
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If you throw rope on it, that takes care of the weight problem. Of course, it also takes care of the 'cheap winch' problem... :D
Most of the 6000 lb winches are just 8000's lb with a smaller motor on them. Warn makes a nice 8000lb light weight mini winch, but it's expensive and only has 50' of rope.
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If you throw rope on it, that takes care of the weight problem. Of course, it also takes care of the 'cheap winch' problem... :D
Most of the 6000 lb winches are just 8000's lb with a smaller motor on them. Warn makes a nice 8000lb light weight mini winch, but it's expensive and only has 50' of rope.
Whats the Warns Model # ?
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Warn 9.0R
http://www.warn.com/truck/9.0R_winch.shtml
They claim it's for Rock Crawling only, but you can buy it off of JC Whitney and Amazon.com so it can't be all that exclusive. :D
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Very nice looking But $1200 US Yikes.
Maby i can live with a $400 Supper winch thats like 80 Lbs.
Changeing from cable wire to that new tough Rope is a good Idea to lighten it up a few Lbs tho :)
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If you throw rope on it, that takes care of the weight problem. Of course, it also takes care of the 'cheap winch' problem... :D
Most of the 6000 lb winches are just 8000's lb with a smaller motor on them. Warn makes a nice 8000lb light weight mini winch, but it's expensive and only has 50' of rope.
The crazy thing is the Warn 6000 lb winches are more expensive the Warn 8000 lbs winches so I bought the Warn m8000 winch. I bought a new one and sold the steel cable and roller fairlead on Ebay and selling that stuff as new put a big dent into the cost of the 100' Amsteel rope and aluminum Hawse fairlead. If I remember right I only had to add $75 to have the rope and Hawse fairlead.
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Wheres the best place to buy that Amsteel rope ?
What thickness do i need for a 4 door tracker will 3/16th cut it or do i need the 5 /16ths stuff ??
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smittybuilt xrc8k winch harbor freight.com 299.99
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Contact LowRange. I got a new Smittybilt with the amsteel rope and it works great. I think you're looking at about $450 total. Warn wants $600 just for the rope!!!
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Wheres the best place to buy that Amsteel rope ?
What thickness do i need for a 4 door tracker will 3/16th cut it or do i need the 5 /16ths stuff ??
Nobody ever buys Warn Amsteel. They do not want to sell it so that is why they list it for $600.
Look on Ebay for inexpensive sellers. I then go to their website stores to do the actual purchase since often shipping is less. You need 5/16 Amsteel. I bought my rope here. http://www.cseoffroad.com/atvsywiro.html The 5/16 x 100" is $179 with free shipping.
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Wheres the best place to buy that Amsteel rope ?
What thickness do i need for a 4 door tracker will 3/16th cut it or do i need the 5 /16ths stuff ??
Nobody ever buys Warn Amsteel. They do not want to sell it so that is why they list it for $600.
Look on Ebay for inexpensive sellers. I then go to their website stores to do the actual purchase since often shipping is less. You need 5/16 Amsteel. I bought my rope here. [url]http://www.cseoffroad.com/atvsywiro.html [/url] The 5/16 x 100" is $179 with free shipping.
Thanks Eh! :D
great link.
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Contact LowRange. I got a new Smittybilt with the amsteel rope and it works great. I think you're looking at about $450 total. Warn wants $600 just for the rope!!!
^ awesome deal
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I have a 8000lb Warn with a Amsteel rope on it. I love it, the rope is the way to go!
I've been out with friends (Big Jeeps) that have been stuck or needed wenching of some kind. So it was either I wench them out or leave and get help...
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I've not seen them in action, but the guys running the cheap HF winches swear by them. A small lightweight winch is fine. I would even argue a 2000 lb winch with a snatch block would be fine for most applications. Unless you're in mud, where suction / vacuum is a problem, you'll only have a few hundred lbs of resistance on the line anyway.
That said, I use a Warn 9000 'cause I wheel with heavier rigs sometimes... and do like me some mud. Those big 40" tires under full sized trucks can really suck down deep sometimes.
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The only problem with rope is you need to clean it out if your using it in mud. Otherwise it gets in and starts to destroy the fibers. Cable is a lot more low maintenance then the rope for a trail only rig. :)
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I've not seen them in action, but the guys running the cheap HF winches swear by them. A small lightweight winch is fine. I would even argue a 2000 lb winch with a snatch block would be fine for most applications. Unless you're in mud, where suction / vacuum is a problem, you'll only have a few hundred lbs of resistance on the line anyway.
That said, I use a Warn 9000 'cause I wheel with heavier rigs sometimes... and do like me some mud. Those big 40" tires under full sized trucks can really suck down deep sometimes.
Hi Jeremiah this was my Thinking to!
By HF winches what is a HF winch?
I found a Supper winch its a 3000 Lb one that i think will do with cable.
I cant see Mud being the thing i get stuck in around here its gona be Deep snow.
I like the 3000 Lb one.
Thing is the 8000 Lb one is only $100 More eh. ??? so whats a guy to do.
I like the Light weight Smaller Winchs.
Cause im keeping my Rig light weight with just 29 Inch tires so i dont start getting like 20 MPG.
i dont want to loose on Gas milage to much eh.
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I just weighed my new M8000 Warn winch I am putting on my new rear bumper. It is setting here without the cable and it weighs 34 lbs. The 100' steel cable weighs 16 lbs. An Amsteel rope might weigh 4 lbs. Do what you want with that info but a winch is not that heavy especially without the steel cable.
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Warn M 8000 is only 34 Lbs thats not bad at all.
Amsteel is the way to go eh!
Its hard to Decide cause i just found a 6000Lb Vortex winch for like $200
Im gona buy one and give it a try.
At worse i can use it to load my Inflatable boat on my Motorhome roof :laugh:
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When I had a steal cable, no matter how careful I was it seemed to bird cage and kink one me. It was hard to work with.
The Amsteal rope is very soft and has no stiffness to it at all.
I live in Michigan and if I get stuck its in mud. Never had a problem with it.
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HF = Harbor Freight
Snow can be a problem too if it's "building up" in front of the vehicle / drivetrain components creating a lot of resistance. A 30 lb difference between winches isn't going to kill your MPG.