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ZUKIWORLD Model Specific Suzuki Forum => Suzuki Samurai (All SJ Platform) 1981-1998 => Topic started by: Godzuki84 on March 25, 2012, 03:18:40 PM
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Wow what a bitch! All the walkthroughs on this make it seem like its the easiest thing in the world to take the bracket off but it is anything but! The grinder doesnt seem to be doing much so we got somer cutting discs but those rivots are tough! What did you guys who have switched to the neon seats used to get these brackets off?
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Well I bitched too soon guys/gals? I grinded down the rivots and then just cut the spot welds and pop goes the weasel
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Yeah, they aren't bad, as you found out. Just use a grinder, or you can use a center punch and drill them out. I ground mine.
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^Just to make sure, the only thing I need from the neon seats is the brackets right? Everything else can be trashed? I will get the pass seat done tomorrow then start working on the drivers side :)
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It depends on how you are doing it. When I did my neon seats, I removed all the brackets and fastened the samurai rails to the bottom of the neon seats.
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I looked at Neon seats at the salvage years. Not very impressed. Then I looked around for something better. What I found were Mini-Cooper leather seats, great seats with air bags, air pump for firm or soft ride. They fold down just like my Samuri originals. Real quality, best parts they were already out of the car, look like new and for 150 bucks I think I got a great deal, evev got the rear leathers also, not sure what to do with them. Next comes this week end, the install, Looks simple, we will see.
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It depends on how you are doing it. When I did my neon seats, I removed all the brackets and fastened the samurai rails to the bottom of the neon seats.
I will more than likely be following these how-tos
http://www2.izook.com/?page_id=297 (http://www2.izook.com/?page_id=297)
http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,39777.0.html (http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,39777.0.html)
These both look like they only ultilize the brackets and then bolt or weld them on to the sami rails
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I looked at Neon seats at the salvage years. Not very impressed. Then I looked around for something better. What I found were Mini-Cooper leather seats, great seats with air bags, air pump for firm or soft ride. They fold down just like my Samuri originals. Real quality, best parts they were already out of the car, look like new and for 150 bucks I think I got a great deal, evev got the rear leathers also, not sure what to do with them. Next comes this week end, the install, Looks simple, we will see.
Cool, post up pics when you get her done :thumbsup: especially of the rear seats
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It depends on how you are doing it. When I did my neon seats, I removed all the brackets and fastened the samurai rails to the bottom of the neon seats.
I will more than likely be following these how-tos
[url]http://www2.izook.com/?page_id=297[/url] ([url]http://www2.izook.com/?page_id=297[/url])
[url]http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,39777.0.html[/url] ([url]http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,39777.0.html[/url])
These both look like they only ultilize the brackets and then bolt or weld them on to the sami rails
Now that I see pics, on the izook writeup, that is how I recall doing mine (it was a few years ago, when I did my last neon seats). You have to keep the rear brackets, since that is what holds the seat back on. Seems like I had to use self tapping screws/bolts to fasten one end of the samurai slider to the seat....might have been the rear, since it looks like the front is spaced correctly.
I have the later 2000ish+ neon seats, like in the izook writeup, which are much nicer than the earlier seats.
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It depends on how you are doing it. When I did my neon seats, I removed all the brackets and fastened the samurai rails to the bottom of the neon seats.
I will more than likely be following these how-tos
[url]http://www2.izook.com/?page_id=297[/url] ([url]http://www2.izook.com/?page_id=297[/url])
[url]http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,39777.0.html[/url] ([url]http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,39777.0.html[/url])
These both look like they only ultilize the brackets and then bolt or weld them on to the sami rails
Now that I see pics, on the izook writeup, that is how I recall doing mine (it was a few years ago, when I did my last neon seats). You have to keep the rear brackets, since that is what holds the seat back on. Seems like I had to use self tapping screws/bolts to fasten one end of the samurai slider to the seat....might have been the rear, since it looks like the front is spaced correctly.
I have the later 2000ish+ neon seats, like in the izook writeup, which are much nicer than the earlier seats.
Yes I got mine from a 03 Neon, the other seats like you said didnt look as great plus they were dirty
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It depends on how you are doing it. When I did my neon seats, I removed all the brackets and fastened the samurai rails to the bottom of the neon seats.
I will more than likely be following these how-tos
[url]http://www2.izook.com/?page_id=297[/url] ([url]http://www2.izook.com/?page_id=297[/url])
[url]http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,39777.0.html[/url] ([url]http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,39777.0.html[/url])
These both look like they only ultilize the brackets and then bolt or weld them on to the sami rails
Now that I see pics, on the izook writeup, that is how I recall doing mine (it was a few years ago, when I did my last neon seats). You have to keep the rear brackets, since that is what holds the seat back on. Seems like I had to use self tapping screws/bolts to fasten one end of the samurai slider to the seat....might have been the rear, since it looks like the front is spaced correctly.
I have the later 2000ish+ neon seats, like in the izook writeup, which are much nicer than the earlier seats.
Yes, the front is spaced perfectly, the rears will def need some self tapping screws... how are the screws holding up? Pretty stable?
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It depends on how you are doing it. When I did my neon seats, I removed all the brackets and fastened the samurai rails to the bottom of the neon seats.
I will more than likely be following these how-tos
[url]http://www2.izook.com/?page_id=297[/url] ([url]http://www2.izook.com/?page_id=297[/url])
[url]http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,39777.0.html[/url] ([url]http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,39777.0.html[/url])
These both look like they only ultilize the brackets and then bolt or weld them on to the sami rails
Now that I see pics, on the izook writeup, that is how I recall doing mine (it was a few years ago, when I did my last neon seats). You have to keep the rear brackets, since that is what holds the seat back on. Seems like I had to use self tapping screws/bolts to fasten one end of the samurai slider to the seat....might have been the rear, since it looks like the front is spaced correctly.
I have the later 2000ish+ neon seats, like in the izook writeup, which are much nicer than the earlier seats.
Yes, the front is spaced perfectly, the rears will def need some self tapping screws... how are the screws holding up? Pretty stable?
Yep, they are fine.
I am trying to remember if I ended up using bolts on one of the set of seats. I'll have to check sometime.
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It depends on how you are doing it. When I did my neon seats, I removed all the brackets and fastened the samurai rails to the bottom of the neon seats.
I will more than likely be following these how-tos
[url]http://www2.izook.com/?page_id=297[/url] ([url]http://www2.izook.com/?page_id=297[/url])
[url]http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,39777.0.html[/url] ([url]http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,39777.0.html[/url])
These both look like they only ultilize the brackets and then bolt or weld them on to the sami rails
Now that I see pics, on the izook writeup, that is how I recall doing mine (it was a few years ago, when I did my last neon seats). You have to keep the rear brackets, since that is what holds the seat back on. Seems like I had to use self tapping screws/bolts to fasten one end of the samurai slider to the seat....might have been the rear, since it looks like the front is spaced correctly.
I have the later 2000ish+ neon seats, like in the izook writeup, which are much nicer than the earlier seats.
Yes, the front is spaced perfectly, the rears will def need some self tapping screws... how are the screws holding up? Pretty stable?
Yep, they are fine.
I am trying to remember if I ended up using bolts on one of the set of seats. I'll have to check sometime.
You already know my problem since I PMed you lol but I think I may weld the backs on there
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Ok got the pass seat on! Now working on the drivers side and then will post up pics! :D
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(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n294/mitsu_NinJa/photobucket-4148-1333071160578.jpg)
These seats are so awesome! And comfortable and they are teh sexy :thumbsup:
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It'll seem like a different vehicle.I lke the fact they sit a little higher.
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^I mustve drove around for a little under an hr yesterday lol, the seats are just so nice! Now I just need to get the pass side to fold down like the samurai seat!
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If you mean forward?.........
Oh, So Sad, you are in the boat that I'm in.
4 door Neon seat can not fold forward, the seat "Ratchet" isn't set up to do that !!
When I got mine, the "Pick Apart" said $50.00/set & we'll get them out, Charcol Good?
It sounded GREAT, only to find out they were 4 door seats and I was already Wacking & Hacking B4 I found out.
CAPT
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^I heard that you can switch the 4dr mechanism to a 2dr one and vice versa, the seats are all the same just the mechanism between body styles, I will probably go to the j/y this wkend and try to find a 4dr seat and a 2dr seat and see if I can switch them.
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Look at the hinge mechanism and see why it is not folding forward. You can modify it to fold forward. Seems like you have to remove one of the bolts, remove (maybe drill out) a spacer and put a shortened bolt in, or put it in from the opposite side or something. I did it to one of my neon seats...but its been long enough ago, I don't remember the exact procedure....and that samurai isn't here, so I can't go look.
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I put the two door mechanisms on the right seat and left the drives as is.I got it off a trashed seat at the pull a part.
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^Was it pretty easy to switch them out? I too am gonna leave the drivers side as is since people don't usually climb in on the drivers side anyways.
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It was simple.You have to pull the plastic cover off with a torx driver then there are three,I think it was, on the seat bracket and pull the seat cover up on the seat backs where there are two more.The outside ones are the ones you replace.The insde ones fold forward anyway. Slide the seat all the way forward and go to work.