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Re: Track/Kick Tonneau Cover W/PICS!
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2005, 06:58:08 PM »
A sliding rear window out of /for a p/u might work.
It's looking good. I like it.
I've been think of taking out my rear shoulder belts anyways cause I aint got a back seat.
Finnally Kicks will have a cool top like all those sammie guys. ;) ;D
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« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2005, 09:34:45 PM »
Very cool! Are you going to make a filler strip for the top of the tailgate as well?
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« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2005, 10:06:48 PM »
Looks sweet... are you making a portion to go over the roof, too?
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« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2005, 10:12:08 PM »
P-Dog  did you see you have a PM ???
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« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2005, 10:36:45 PM »
 Now the fun begins sanding, sanding and more sanding ;D ;D ;D

 To anwser a few questions

1. the weight is going to be 20-25 pounds finished?
2. the cost I don't know til it's done (so far it's cheap, bit of materials & lots of time)
3. the window will be in the finished piece (easier to mold then cut out the window)
4. the tail gate gap is kinda stumping me still. to small and tight fitting for me to mold one ( I was thinking of a rubber gasket with a curved edge ( would fill the gap & you could open the gate without opening the trunk)
5. the extra lights could go on top as the strip across the top is 2.5" and the fiberglass is going to be 1/4" or thicker

 For window options all I got so far is flat glass(black rubber gasket), sun roof ( open at the bottom in this case) or a sliding window ( aluminum frame)

 Thanks for the ideas/input keep'm coming & the question ( keeps me thinking)

Steve
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« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2005, 11:01:09 PM »
 I forgot , I'll be making the piece for the roof after I'm done the back. It's gonna be flat and smooth not like the current plastic ones ( I owned a 91 tracker, jacked & mudders with the 2 piece top and didn't like the look or fit of the roof piece)

Steve
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« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2005, 06:52:51 AM »
Quote from: prairie_dog on July 10, 2005, 11:01:09 PM
I forgot , I'll be making the piece for the roof after I'm done the back. It's gonna be flat and smooth not like the current plastic ones ( I owned a 91 tracker, jacked & mudders with the 2 piece top and didn't like the look or fit of the roof piece)

Steve

I never liked the fit either...I'm looking forward to seeing your piece...I have the BesTop Sunport so the front half of the softop is separate from the rear, your halfback will work just fine on my beast ;)

Oh....the nice thing about the sunroof idea for the rear window is that most of those pop-up sunroofs have the ability to pop-out as well and be stored in the back....hmmm, would it fit under the access panel? If so could there be a slot molded in to hold the popped out window?
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« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2005, 10:55:56 AM »
Looks great! I wish that I could have found someone to make one for the 99+ Track/vit

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Re: Track/Kick Tonneau Cover W/PICS!
« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2005, 11:12:08 AM »
Another thing about the pop-up/pop-out sunroofs ... typically they are 15x31 but need around 17x33 flat space to mount (frame and such).

Install isn't a big deal, so perhaps you could make a solid rear, but give folks a source to DIY the window install (if they want it). Should keep the price down for those that don't mind the DIY ...

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« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2005, 11:26:33 AM »
 I got looking at the 2 pc tops from other companies and they range from $800 to $1300 plus shpping, does this seem a little outragous or what
 Are people actually paying to get them, only ask because I've been trying to figure out what mine is gonna cost and so far it not even close?

 The original with the lift gate back window is made from plastic, injection molds would be expense to make but once done you could make a top like every 20 min + the plastic would be cheaper than fiberglass.

 I was thinking of making other models later if this on works (99+ style & sami's)

 Some of this doesn't add up to me? (I'm not a business guy though ???)


 Steve
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Re: Track/Kick Tonneau Cover W/PICS!
« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2005, 12:09:20 PM »
Unfortunately, I'm not sure that will fit with my Calmini Sport Cage installed.  But I'm not sure.

Darn it!  It would ALMOST work!

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Re: Track/Kick Tonneau Cover W/PICS!
« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2005, 12:44:46 PM »
Quote from: prairie_dog on July 11, 2005, 11:26:33 AM
I got looking at the 2 pc tops from other companies and they range from $800 to $1300 plus shpping, does this seem a little outragous or what
 Are people actually paying to get them, only ask because I've been trying to figure out what mine is gonna cost and so far it not even close?

 The original with the lift gate back window is made from plastic, injection molds would be expense to make but once done you could make a top like every 20 min + the plastic would be cheaper than fiberglass.

 I was thinking of making other models later if this on works (99+ style & sami's)

 Some of this doesn't add up to me? (I'm not a business guy though ???)

 Steve

Yes it does seem outrageous!!
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Re: Track/Kick Tonneau Cover W/PICS!
« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2005, 12:58:03 PM »
Quote from: prairie_dog on July 11, 2005, 11:26:33 AM
I got looking at the 2 pc tops from other companies and they range from $800 to $1300 plus shpping, does this seem a little outragous or what

Yup outrageous to me ... I didn't pay that much for the rig!!!

I got a used hardtop for $400 and only just cuz I needed it.

I'd guess if your rear and front combo came in around $400 (+shipping), you'd have happy customers. This without the "window" ... add $200 for that as an option (or the DIY source info).

Are you going to "finish the interior" with carpet? To me that's another DIY that can be done by those that care.
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Re: Track/Kick Tonneau Cover W/PICS!
« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2005, 02:11:05 PM »
Quote from: prairie_dog on July 11, 2005, 11:26:33 AM
I got looking at the 2 pc tops from other companies and they range from $800 to $1300 plus shpping, does this seem a little outragous or what
 Are people actually paying to get them, only ask because I've been trying to figure out what mine is gonna cost and so far it not even close? Some of this doesn't add up to me? (I'm not a business guy though ???)


 Steve

I don't know how outrageous that is. How much time are you going to spend on developing yours and how much time are you going to spend making each one and testing. What would the labour cost be if you were charging it. Then spread that across how many units you reckon you can sell. Factor in all your overheads, factory rent, cleaners. accountants, allow for time spent doing paperwork etc.. Then add on a decent profit cos the whole reason for a business is to make money. Usually the raw materials are a very small part of the whole cost, the development costs are the main part unless you're going to sell them by the thousand.
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Re: Track/Kick Tonneau Cover W/PICS!
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2005, 04:13:23 PM »
I completely agree with Rhinoman

     You have to account for your R&D time and costs, all your
overheads...then the fudge factor, cause some will screw up.
Some will get returned because of niggly customers, some you
will need to warranty.
     AND....everyone that makes a product deserves to make a
buck.

     The cost of a Calmini Hardtop the last time I checked was
1600.00 US, thats about 2000.00 Cdn. So give the guys a deal!
But as a business owner I understand WHY stuff costs what it does
and you need to take everything into account.

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