I looked into a Ford 9", yes they are strong, and
have good gear availability to match the 5.83s
offered by Calmini, BUT it was going to be about
$2500 to have one ready to bolt into a Track/Kick

Mind you this was including the gears, but    that's
a lot of bread man, So I continued the Full Floater
project, wanting to keep my Track, Kick as close to
Suzuki parts as posible.

As a note: I got the Calipers and a mount today, looks
good, i have a few more details to work out, but I think
this is going to be a really nice bolt on Mod, rear disk with
a Parking brake, easy to find and not huge expencive.

As far a spooled diff, the lockouts should not be affected,
and as far as strength goes, stock 26s are adiquate, not the
best, best costs $$$  I'm not saying it won't be available in
a larger spline count, but remember, these are going to be
a special built axle, and not an India import either, lets see
how they hold up, I will work on the bigger axles after the
prototype is up and running.

yea, understandable, things get expensive and your idea sounds like it's considerably stronger than stock.. also if it does break it won't be nearly as bad seeing as how it's fully free floating.. yup, I think I'd someday like to put a 9 on my GV.. someday, someday

Hi Wild,

Stick with the stock 26 spline axle size - just make sure you get strong axles made. 4340 deep hardened would be more than strong enough
With the load of the wheel , rim , brakes etc etc taken out of the equation the axles will survive considerably longer.
44's - here we come

ZeusZuki

Can you put in a rear spool, and then only lock one side so you dont have the problems you would have with being locked up on the pavement?
I know a 2dr can get away with a spool on the street, but I do not like the idea of my 4dr being locked all the time. 

Can you put in a rear spool, and then only lock one side so you dont have the problems you would have with being locked up on the pavement?
I know a 2dr can get away with a spool on the street, but I do not like the idea of my 4dr being locked all the time. 

that doesn't seem possilbe to me.. if it does I'd like to know about it because it would be quite interesting. a spool eliminates your spider gears/differential and then you are locked solid 100% of the time. a friend of mine welded his 4wd 4 runner's rear end and drove it on the street.. chirped the tires at times when turning but it worked, another friend of mine spooled his ford 9" on his wrangler and ended up breaking it so bad that even the housing is trash. he also killed some good tires awefully fast. you can get by with driving a spooled or welded rear on pavement, just don't be surprised if you kill your tires or end up snapping an axle

like I said, I really want to hear about it if you could lock only one side, sound like it would actually be a help, but I have never heard of it

Quote from: echojeff on February 14, 2006, 11:53:54 AM

Can you put in a rear spool, and then only lock one side so you dont have the problems you would have with being locked up on the pavement?
I know a 2dr can get away with a spool on the street, but I do not like the idea of my 4dr being locked all the time. 

that doesn't seem possilbe to me.. if it does I'd like to know about it because it would be quite interesting. a spool eliminates your spider gears/differential and then you are locked solid 100% of the time. a friend of mine welded his 4wd 4 runner's rear end and drove it on the street.. chirped the tires at times when turning but it worked, another friend of mine spooled his ford 9" on his wrangler and ended up breaking it so bad that even the housing is trash. he also killed some good tires awefully fast. you can get by with driving a spooled or welded rear on pavement, just don't be surprised if you kill your tires or end up snapping an axle

like I said, I really want to hear about it if you could lock only one side, sound like it would actually be a help, but I have never heard of it

They do make electric lockers, that are open until you throw a switch...which would acomplish the same thing..driveable, but locked when you need it.  But they are pricey.

Can you put in a rear spool, and then only lock one side so you dont have the problems you would have with being locked up on the pavement?
I know a 2dr can get away with a spool on the street, but I do not like the idea of my 4dr being locked all the time. 

Yes it's doable but imagine the load going through just one axle shaft  especially if you are putting the power down. Offroad when you bust one side you can unlock that side and the load is still being shared with the other three axle shafts.

Quote from: Maroon Monsoon on February 14, 2006, 01:07:04 PM

Quote from: echojeff on February 14, 2006, 11:53:54 AM

Can you put in a rear spool, and then only lock one side so you dont have the problems you would have with being locked up on the pavement?
I know a 2dr can get away with a spool on the street, but I do not like the idea of my 4dr being locked all the time. 

that doesn't seem possilbe to me.. if it does I'd like to know about it because it would be quite interesting. a spool eliminates your spider gears/differential and then you are locked solid 100% of the time. a friend of mine welded his 4wd 4 runner's rear end and drove it on the street.. chirped the tires at times when turning but it worked, another friend of mine spooled his ford 9" on his wrangler and ended up breaking it so bad that even the housing is trash. he also killed some good tires awefully fast. you can get by with driving a spooled or welded rear on pavement, just don't be surprised if you kill your tires or end up snapping an axle

like I said, I really want to hear about it if you could lock only one side, sound like it would actually be a help, but I have never heard of it

They do make electric lockers, that are open until you throw a switch...which would acomplish the same thing..driveable, but locked when you need it.  But they are pricey.

yea, electric lockers are the way to go if you have a good load of money.. or air ones, not sure which is better

Yes, you could only lock one side,
but the result would be worse than
with a locker, on accel you would be
pushed by one side, and it would
make you do unplanned lane changes

Wild

My jeeper friend said that in the snow you do not want your lockers on.  The suggestion is you could do a front locker and when not in 4wd no locking, but you would be locked when in 4wd.  He had a auto locking hub front set up, and was going to mod it to be manually done from the inside, and the only one would be engaged all the time while driveing on ice and snow.  I just thought you have to pay attention when on the snow when both front wheels start spinning. 
Does that 9"ford really cost that much to do?  WOW