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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #60 on: September 15, 2005, 05:24:23 PM »


We hav eto have  a mechanical ebrake over here. Why do you need the proportioning valve? Too much pedal travel or too much power in the rear brakes?

Sucks on the e-brake. The more I drive it, the less I think I need one. The rear's are too strong. They lock up if I jab the peddle good.
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #61 on: September 16, 2005, 12:01:57 AM »
The rear's are too strong. They lock up if I jab the peddle good.


Thats what I was expecting from mine, thats what everyone seems to find when converting SJs. The Ford calipers just don't seem to work that well. Whats your pedal travel like? mine is OKish when the pads are good but as they wear the pedal goes a long way down, once the adjuster clicks over again it comes back up.
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #62 on: September 16, 2005, 12:29:50 AM »
Hi guys. Bit late in on this one but.....
Zeuszuki runs rear disk brakes. Used standard rear drums, machined the outer off to leave the inner 5 bolt set up for Sammy disks. Made a mount out of 8mm plate steel to bolt calipers to. Bolted this to the four drum brake backing plate on the end of the axle housing. Used Toyota MR2 calipers with mechanical handbrake. Handbrake is situated in the centre of the piston and acts on a cam via a cable.
Easy ;)
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #63 on: September 16, 2005, 12:50:34 AM »
Hi guys. Bit late in on this one but.....
Zeuszuki runs rear disk brakes. Used standard rear drums, machined the outer off to leave the inner 5 bolt set up for Sammy disks. Made a mount out of 8mm plate steel to bolt calipers to. Bolted this to the four drum brake backing plate on the end of the axle housing. Used Toyota MR2 calipers with mechanical handbrake. Handbrake is situated in the centre of the piston and acts on a cam via a cable.
Easy ;)
Hmmm, interesting gonna look into it!  ;D
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #64 on: September 16, 2005, 12:55:43 AM »
Hi guys. Bit late in on this one but.....
Zeuszuki runs rear disk brakes. Used standard rear drums, machined the outer off to leave the inner 5 bolt set up for Sammy disks. Made a mount out of 8mm plate steel to bolt calipers to. Bolted this to the four drum brake backing plate on the end of the axle housing. Used Toyota MR2 calipers with mechanical handbrake. Handbrake is situated in the centre of the piston and acts on a cam via a cable.
Easy ;)
Hmmm, interesting gonna look into it!  ;D
quickly searched for the diameter of the rear discs, much closer to the sammy/vit ones. Thanks for the tip! gonna try to get some of those  ;)
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #65 on: September 16, 2005, 01:06:45 AM »
Hi oorklep.
Check out front Subaru calipers, 1980 -82 from memory. These calipers work to ;) The front ones only though :)
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #66 on: September 16, 2005, 01:32:44 AM »
Hi oorklep.
Check out front Subaru calipers, 1980 -82 from memory. These calipers work to ;) The front ones only though :)
Huh? Handbrake on the front wheels?  That is one of the most important things for me, b'cause I need to have a mechanical hand brake  >:( otherwise it would be easy  ;)
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #67 on: September 16, 2005, 04:39:04 AM »
Hi guys. Bit late in on this one but.....
Zeuszuki runs rear disk brakes. Used standard rear drums, machined the outer off to leave the inner 5 bolt set up for Sammy disks. Made a mount out of 8mm plate steel to bolt calipers to. Bolted this to the four drum brake backing plate on the end of the axle housing. Used Toyota MR2 calipers with mechanical handbrake. Handbrake is situated in the centre of the piston and acts on a cam via a cable.
Easy ;)

Thats very similar to the way mine are done. You need replace the wheel studs with some that are both long enough to deal with the extra thickness of the disc and also have a long enough shoulder to locate the disc centrally. How well does his ebrake work and did he have to modify the ebrake cable?

Edit: Don't forget that the thickness of the disc is as important as the diameter.
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #68 on: September 16, 2005, 06:09:35 AM »
The rear's are too strong. They lock up if I jab the peddle good.


Thats what I was expecting from mine, thats what everyone seems to find when converting SJs. The Ford calipers just don't seem to work that well. Whats your pedal travel like? mine is OKish when the pads are good but as they wear the pedal goes a long way down, once the adjuster clicks over again it comes back up.

Peddle height is good. not as high as my tacoma, but alot higher then when rear drums are out of adjustment.
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #69 on: September 17, 2005, 01:31:44 PM »
Hi Rhino,
Yeah had to get the handbrake cable fitted with a different end to suit the calipers leaver. The local brake specialist did this for not much $. Works fine. Holds / pulls up ZeusZuki with 37's.
Interesting note: Here in NZ we call the "E" brake a "hand brake" because Suzukis are fitted with dual brake systems - independant front and rear hudraulic systems. This means that if you "pop" a line then the other end will still pull you up ;).
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #70 on: September 17, 2005, 07:07:27 PM »
Hi Rhino,
Yeah had to get the handbrake cable fitted with a different end to suit the calipers leaver. The local brake specialist did this for not much $. Works fine. Holds / pulls up ZeusZuki with 37's.
Interesting note: Here in NZ we call the "E" brake a "hand brake" because Suzukis are fitted with dual brake systems - independant front and rear hudraulic systems. This means that if you "pop" a line then the other end will still pull you up ;).


Same here in the US.  Either the front and rear are seperated or like on front wheel drives the lines are crossed.  The left front uses the same line off the master that the right rear does.

I thing the Emergency Brake came about when the cars only had one line coming off the Master cylinder for the whole car.
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #71 on: September 17, 2005, 07:55:11 PM »
proper term anymore is "parking brake" ...
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #72 on: September 19, 2005, 01:08:08 PM »
We call it a handbrake too, but the majority of people here are Americans  ;D
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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #73 on: September 19, 2005, 07:06:14 PM »
Emergency brake  ;D

It really would have to be an emergency,
because it don't work for crap, I think dragging
your foot would work better

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Re: rear disk brakes
« Reply #74 on: October 04, 2005, 11:43:35 PM »
May be of interest may not but this is what we did for a guy a few wks ago. Machined up the caliper bracket for stock zuk calipers and rotors. I know it does not solve the E-brake issue but hay. As stated above in an emergency are you realy gonna use it. LOL