I went on this other forum I used to frequent before I got my geo, and posted a topic saying how much better my geo is than the tercel4wd I used to own, which had 220,000 miles on it and smoked like a chimney, and how I put it on craigslist and some kids traded me an rc car for it. If I hadnt traded it, I would have had to pay someone to take it. Well anyways, one of the morons on the forum posted that it would outlast the geo tracker . What an insult. I normally wouldnt be insulted, but that was just agravating, as a car with 220,000 miles on it and with problems in both the engine and drivetrain departments will not outlast a flawless (almost)trackick. I wouldnt doubt it that the tercel is probably already dead. The people on the forums of Tercel4wd.com all have their heads up their tercels a--. Every week, they are talking about how to keep a vehicle that toyota doesnt make the parts for anymore nor does it acknowledge that the vehicle exists running and on the road. Mine I bought for $500 and took it skiing once, and then decided that it wasnt fit for long trips when it was trying to stall about 80 miles from home. Then one time I was thrashing it through a neighborhood, and it stalled  for no reason . all I could do is try to start it, and finally it did , but still, it failed my test of reliability. Either way, I am happy to be a suzuki driver, and a member of this awesome forum .

  One day they to may have the privilage of learning the ways of the Zuk 

But untill then they will just sound stupid as they insult something they know nothing about. I have owned Toyota and they are awesome reilable vehicles. Mine lasted well over 200K miles until I ran it out of oil at 80 on the interstate Wait till you start going to off-roading events with one, that is where the comments realy start to fly 

Zig

Man, dont listen to that, my little tracker had over 260k miles on it when I finally had to sell it(wife issues) and the biggest problem I had with it was only a wheel bearing failed. Now my Toyota it has been a good truck but has had a few more issues with it than my little geo ever had(I blame the v-6 in it). I loved hearing crap at wheeling events when I would be pulling it of the trailer and guys would be talking smack about it, then after the weekend when loading it up to go home, the same guys would be coming over saying how impressed they were of the little truck. 

I have that same problem with my Samurai. 

I actually did have a rice racer mouth me in the parking lot in town one night until I threatned to drive over his hood.....lol
Shut him up real quick when I put a tire up on the lamp post about 4 feet!

   Wish I coulda seen the lightpost thing! 

The problem with alot of fulks out there is....

that they think they know what they are talking about..

.these folks tend to talk about something as if it were fact because they belive they know it to be true...

where as people who know more about a specific topic don't say as much as they dont need to...they already know the truth..

I have had people offten times point out that my car looks like a smurf...

I call it a safety feature people can see me and are less likely to hit me

 I have owned 5 toyota trucks ( all junkers ) but I bought them as junk and drove them the same way, they all took more abuse than I ever expected.

 I heard a story about a Heep guy laughing at a zuk guy , they made a bet that the zuki could not go as far as the Heep, so when the Heep stopped cause the trail got to narrow the sami pulled his mirrors in drove past him and said "YOU OWE ME  20 BUCKS"

 Some times ignorence (selling?) is bliss $$$$$

 Steve.

 

I have owned(and still own) 2 toyota trucks, and both of them were very well made, but it just so happened that they both were worn out, and therefore they both broke. The tercel is much less reliable than the toyota truck. My moms friend had one, and it was having issues when it was probably 6-8 years old. The main problem with them is that the carburetor and emissions systems were sort of an overcomplicated afterthought. It also didnt help that the synchros and differential bearings were also poor in design and prone to breaking. The Samurai and trackick are much better engineered than the tercel4wd, and therefor they will last longer. Plus, I enjoy the Tracker more than I enjoyed the tercel(the tercel was a sort of family car from the 80s, as the tracker is more of an off road type vehicle that gets better mileage than the tercel 4wd)

I've now owned three first-gen Tracker two-doors and a '03 Grand Vitara.  You don't want to know how many times people have made "they flip" comments to me. ::)  Half of them probably don't even know that Consumer Reports was the source of that BS rumor.

Last fall I got my second Tracker and a guy I worked with made fun of me.  I pointed out that it cost me $800 and it was all mine, how much were his payments on his 2005 Z71 and how much did he owe on it?  He didn't like the comparison.
After I found out the block was cracked I got another ration of shit from him but I told him I had less than 4 months worth of payments on his truck into it.
Then he had several issues pop up with his new truck and the local dealership gave him a load of shit about it all.  I pointed out my Tracker was just dead, wasn't costing me any money now.  Auto-Morbid humor that he didn't appreciate. 
I got my '96 Tracker a few weeks ago and again, he put his foot in his mouth asking if it would run longer than the last one.  I asked him if his truck has given him any more trouble lately?
Then I pointed out that I still had less into BOTH Trackers than he was going to pay on his truck this year and still not own it.

i worked  as toyota technician ...  tercel/paseo are not that great of a car   to start with.    most other toyotas are very good cars/truck  ..i have seenthem come in with 470+ miles for oil change ..  i used to owned 7 yotas truck before my tracker . i love my
tracker due to how cheap i can get it to make go better then my trucks.

but here i got into with some jeep guys   but lots of other jeep guys backed me up.
http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=5645

Do you know why toyota pickups that are thrashed command such a high price to obtain. The owners think that they will run forever, but I personally think that paying 2-5k for a truck that has been abused and has 250,000 on it is a bit much.

Do you know why toyota pickups that are thrashed command such a high price to obtain. The owners think that they will run forever, but I personally think that paying 2-5k for a truck that has been abused and has 250,000 on it is a bit much.

Only thing worse is heep owners , oh look its a cj-7 so what if there is no exhaust and floorboards are rusted clean thru I'll sell it to ya for 8500 bucks..

Of course can't say a whole lot, guy yesterday wanted to buy my truck and told him wasnt selling but couldnt take a penny less than 4500. It's got trail rash and 213k miles on it, but 4 new tires/wheels and just went thru and rebuilt the motor last year(durn v-6 expensive sob). He kept saying I'll give you 1200 like I would actually WANT to loose money.

I guess I am sort of the same way with the tacoma with the blown engine. One time I was talking about it at a place I worked, and some white trash wanted me to knock it off for less than 5,000, but blue book value, even with a blown engine, was still a little over 7,000, and running, I could sell it for 10,000, even though replacing the engine would run from 2500 to 3000, plus the time it takes to do the swap, and other odds and ends that may need to be replaced. I figure that we might as well keep it as we bought it new in 1996, and since we took the depreciation hit of the first 3 years, it would be pointless to sell it, unless it is still worth 10,000 when it is 15 to 20 yrs old. I have also noticed that zukes are beginning to demand a premium in the area I live in. It is mostly because people like to tow them behind their motorhome, and finding one with low miles and not abused(the one I have) is a good find, and will usually get more money.

I love it. At my school, there are about 10 guys with built rigs... my samurai catches the most crap, yet I'm always the one who isnt stuck and is trying to help get the other guys out. There are 3 YJs, from 31"s-35"s, and not a one can hold a candle to my samurai. The first time out, one of the YJs with 33"s was following me through some ruts, he figured that if I could make it through on my 31" (now ive got swampers  ) all terrains, he would have no problems. He high centered right away and I spent the rest of the day trying to get him out and breaking ropes... all on ruts I didn't even rub on.

Then I caught flak from a V8 dakota on 35"s with a detroit in the rear, told him to follow me to the mudhole I made, and we took off. He probaly would have done better than me, mostly due to the locker and clearance, but he couldn't even make it there because of a tight squeeze between some trees. I'm chalking that one up as a win.

There is an F350 on 38"s that I've got more axle clearance than on 31"s, which is quite amusing as well.

theres a guy in my town that owned a cj7 he told me twice he was pulled out by a sammi.
he sold the heep now owns three sammis.  he was in heaven the other day had to pull out e heep. said he loved every minute of it.


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