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Broken spacer pic
« on: July 08, 2006, 12:15:16 PM »
Anyone ever have this happen before? They only have about 500k on them all on the road. With all the trouble I have had just to put little 30 inch tires on I think I am going back to stock.  :'(


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Re: Broken spacer pic
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2006, 12:17:43 PM »
well I got leafs and a spring over on my zuk, but that spacer sure didnt last long...

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Re: Broken spacer pic
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2006, 03:51:09 PM »
Anyone ever have this happen before? They only have about 500k on them all on the road. With all the trouble I have had just to put little 30 inch tires on I think I am going back to stock.  :'(




500k??!? That's like 500,000 miles! You probably meant 500 miles. Even still spacers shouldn't break like that. I would be worried about the fit and the quality of the materials used in making those spacers. If it was one of the ones I've made, I would most definately send you a new one, but that is obviously not my work. I would be very surprized if one of my spacers broke like that...

See if the manufacturer will replace it for you. If not, how thick is that one? I can sell you either a pair or even a single spacer in either 1", 1.5" or 2" thick to get you fixed up... Let me know. 8)
« Last Edit: July 08, 2006, 03:53:25 PM by Digger »
Had a cool sig pic till I changed the text... sigh...
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Re: Broken spacer pic
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2006, 04:23:50 PM »
Thanks for the offer Digger, I will let you know after the manufacturer gets back to me.

Guess I should have said 500 kilometers.

I took the weight off it to get a better look. It seems as though the spring somehow rolled the center piece that goes inside the spring in. Then it looks as if part of the spring actually forced its way inside the spacer creating the tear you see in the pic.  Keep

edit - Guess I should say that this is a 01 4 door tracker
« Last Edit: July 08, 2006, 04:26:24 PM by hap »

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Offline Digger

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Re: Broken spacer pic
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2006, 04:40:37 PM »
Well, to be real honest, I don't know if my spacers would fit a newer model like an 01. I do see a potential problem with the install, though. If you pry out the stock rubber spring isolator from the upper spring cup, then put the spacer all the way into the spring cup and put the isolator back on between the spring and the spacer, the spring might not have worked it's way inside the spacer...
Had a cool sig pic till I changed the text... sigh...
90 Tracker: "Silver", 2" BL, 1-1/2" Coil Spacers, Strut mount flip, Calmini Header, Winch, 31" Swamper radials, Sold.
98 Suzuki X-90: Calmini 2" Sus, 1-1/4" whl spcrs, 2" Exhaust, Cobra Safari Bar, Neon, Sold.
96 Suzuki X-90: Mostly stock daily driver(for now)

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Re: Broken spacer pic
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2006, 04:54:43 PM »
In the instructions it says if leaving the stock isolator on to install it first. These particular spacers have a groove for the end of the spring to sit in, just like the lower seat. I don't think the stock piece would fit on it properly. Mind you it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong!

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Re: Broken spacer pic
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2006, 05:03:44 PM »
holly cow that sucks. i just put the exact same one in my 92 2dr. i think i will keep and eye on them. they seemed like they were pretty soft to me. maybe that was the problem. keep us updated if they will replace it or not. it would be a shame if they didnt.
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Re: Broken spacer pic
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2006, 05:12:21 PM »
yeah aren't they(those particular spacers) made from some type of urethane? 

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Re: Broken spacer pic
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2006, 05:20:44 PM »
Yes milk I think they are, and I will let everyone know how it ends up.

I just want to note that I didn't start this post to slam or put pressure on any manufacturer. I just noticed the spacer today so obviously just contacted the dealer today. Being a weekend I wouldn't expect to hear from them until Monday. Out of the 5 or 6 companies I have dealt with since I bought my tracker, these guys gave the best customer service and shipped super quick.

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Re: Broken spacer pic
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2006, 05:36:35 PM »
Digger, your spacers should fit a 99+ no problem.  The more I dink with my GV and my Tracker the more I realize they use a lot of the same components.  It seems like where Suzuki changed stuff they just did the logical next step.

I also happen to know that several other spacer makers claim their spacers fit all IFS Suzukis.  Other than the isolater not fitting over this particular kind of spacer due to the "spring notch" there should be no fitment issues.

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Re: Broken spacer pic
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2006, 06:05:17 PM »
oh i'm not bashing at all, i just find comfort in my uhmw spacers are really hard and not squishy urethane stuff.

also this reminds me i really should put my coil isolators back in soon.  :P

mike
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Re: Broken spacer pic
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2006, 06:09:39 PM »
Okay, I don't have a newer model to test them on, so that's why I say 89-98 models since I know for sure they fit those.

Hap, if the spacers have a groove for the spring, then you had them in right. Apparently the material might have had a bubble in the wrong spot or something like that. My spacers have to go between the coil cup and the isolator since they are very simplistic in design and I have no way to easily cut a groove for the spring. Just a different design is all. I do know that RRO spacers(which claim 1-1/8", but are only actually barely 1" thick :-\) can be installed either under or over the stock isolator, but they hold up much better if the stock isolator is mounted between the spacer and the spring. The RRO spacers will get deformed quickly if they are mounted directly against the spring...
Had a cool sig pic till I changed the text... sigh...
90 Tracker: "Silver", 2" BL, 1-1/2" Coil Spacers, Strut mount flip, Calmini Header, Winch, 31" Swamper radials, Sold.
98 Suzuki X-90: Calmini 2" Sus, 1-1/4" whl spcrs, 2" Exhaust, Cobra Safari Bar, Neon, Sold.
96 Suzuki X-90: Mostly stock daily driver(for now)

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Re: Broken spacer pic
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2006, 08:14:28 AM »
These are the spacers that Dave Jones has made over here. The company that makes them has a lot of experience moulding this type of material for automotive applications. I would suggest that you contact him directly as well, you are right to go through your supplier but its worth giving him the heads up on this. He is a good bloke and I know he will be quite shocked to learn about this.

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Re: Broken spacer pic
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2006, 09:37:09 AM »
Update - I have already heard back from the supplier and a new one will be in the mail on Mon. Very good customer service with no questions asked. Maybe this one just had a slight defect I didn't notice as the other 3 look fine.

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Re: Broken spacer pic
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2006, 10:27:03 AM »
You might want to take a few measurements and look into extending your bumpstops. I believe that with the spacers in place the coils will fully compress before the bumpstops are reached. That is going to put a high load on the spacers, its also going to cause spring sag.
2000 Vitara 1.6, 3+3 Lift, 33"MTs, 5:83s, LWB brakes, Winch, Snorkel, Safari Rack
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