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question for Wild re: turbo build
« on: July 18, 2006, 04:23:44 PM »
Hey Wildgoody, I've been working on my turbo set up for my 95 16v and am slowly getting everything together. Had my manifold flange water jet cut out of 3/8ths mild steel and got all the pre bent tubing from jegs, so the manifold should be finished within a week or so. The RHB5's I got are in good shape, one even came with the cast exhaust tube, which will make connecting it to the cat even easier. It's off a Suburu, has a nice bend slightly forward, and bungs for ox sensor and one other, Pyrometer maybe? The Iron castings also have plenty of threaded holes to build supports off of.  I've also been doing some research on the injectors with a very helpful and curious parts guy at my local Pep Boys, and have a line on the correct ones , 2.3 ltr Ford right ? Apparently there pretty common, used in many Ford products. Also came up with a fuel pump that would be suitable to bring the line pressure up to needed levels. My question is this: I've been studying my service manual, and everything looks fairly straight forward, with the exception of one thing, according to the manual the fuel pressure regulator keeps the pressure applied to the injectors at a constant 41lbs. If i'm increasing the line pressure, won't I have to change the regulator to one with a higher operating pressure to feed the bigger injectors? If the pressure in the intake manifold is greater than the pressure applied to the injector, it will just open the valve in the regulator and return to the fuel tank. Do I got this right? Waddya think?
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Re: question for Wild re: turbo build
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2006, 06:01:45 PM »
The fuel pressure regulator has a 1:1 ratio with
manifold pressure, so as boost increases so does
the fuel pressure.

The factory pump is good for about 60 PSI, the
regulator should run at about 40 something, I
don't remember off hand for the 16V engine, The
injectors you are looking at for the non turbo Fords
should be a good size for both idle quality and full
on boost performance

Sounds like you are on your way to a nice build,
keep us posted, and get some 1/4 mile times and
speeds (legal of coarse) for the fun of it.  Remember
to use Premium fuel when pushing things hard, you
can get away with regular if you stay out of the throttle
but it's hard to not want to squeeze that skinny pedal
when it's so much fun to do so  ;D

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Re: question for Wild re: turbo build
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2006, 10:19:39 PM »
ok i have built some turbo hondas and we have used GSX 1000 injectors. they work really well. also the ford brown top injectors i believe are used in the 2.3 turbo setup. not sure of color of non turbo's. maybe this will help or strike an idea.

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Re: question for Wild re: turbo build
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2006, 03:41:19 AM »
Thanks Guys, good info. I'm documenting the build start to finish, with photos of course for a future Post.  Mike
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Re: question for Wild re: turbo build
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2006, 05:05:06 AM »
If i'm increasing the line pressure, won't I have to change the regulator to one with a higher operating pressure to feed the bigger injectors? If the pressure in the intake manifold is greater than the pressure applied to the injector, it will just open the valve in the regulator and return to the fuel tank. Do I got this right? Waddya think?

D you need to increase the line pressure? What pressure are the Ford injectors rated at?
Fuel pressure is relative (to atmosphere), the stock regulator keeps the pressure at 43.5lbs above atmospheric. Pressure in the manifold is absolute and with the engine running is always below atmospheric (ie a vacuum) so theres no chance of the fuel going back to the tank.
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Re: question for Wild re: turbo build
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2006, 06:22:18 AM »
 ??? Good Question. I thought I needed to in order to run bigger (more flow capability) injectors. Do I NEED to change the fuel pump or add a boost pump? Or will the stock pump handle the new injectors?
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Re: question for Wild re: turbo build
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2006, 07:06:53 AM »
Stock pump will work fine
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Re: question for Wild re: turbo build
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2006, 11:56:20 AM »
Thanks Derrick, You guys just saved me a bunch of $ and some added headaches! Muchos Gracias!
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Re: question for Wild re: turbo build
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2006, 12:42:51 PM »
I've been on this board for a little while now, and while I don't post much, I read most threads.

I've yet to see (and I've tried searching both here and on the www) anything on anyone adding a turbo setup to the 2L engine of the 99-04 Trackvit. Any reason for this?


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Re: question for Wild re: turbo build
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2006, 01:28:49 PM »
Maybe it's because the 2ltr makes so much more power compared to the 1.6 16v and especially 8v, and It doesn't need the extra power as bad?  Not really sure.
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Re: question for Wild re: turbo build
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2006, 09:06:07 PM »
My Buddys Here in Oregon have there own shop, But here is there site....Feel free to read, you will learn alot


www.homemadeturbo.com

Turbo'ing anything is pretty easy
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Re: question for Wild re: turbo build
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2006, 04:07:43 AM »
 :) Kool site, the more info the better! Thanks!
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