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Offline kirknd4spd

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« on: July 20, 2006, 09:25:14 PM »
i have an 89 sidekick jlx 2dr with the stock 1.6L 16 valve and auto tranny.  i am planning on installing 33x13.5 super swampers, and i need to know what kind of gearing changes ill need to do.  can my suzuki handle 33s with stock gearing?  this is a daily driver, with weekend trips down tight trails and mudbogs.  if i need new gears, what company sells ring and pinions for my zuki?
« Last Edit: July 20, 2006, 09:27:04 PM by kirknd4spd »
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Re: gearing
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2006, 02:30:49 AM »
calmini sells lower r&p's but what you can do is search the r&p from manual trannys, they are lower than auto ones, 33 will be bit big with stock gearing for daily use tho.

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Re: gearing
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2006, 03:21:10 AM »
You can not get the rear 5.83 r&p's so forget that.

The 1600 16V 4 spd auto's have the same stock r&p's as the manuals so forget that too.

Gearing is a major problem unfortunately  :-\

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Offline 4njeep

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Re: gearing
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2006, 03:41:03 AM »
wouldnt a 89 1.6l be the 8v?
 i dont think they switched to the 16v with the 2 drs till 95,and the 4drs in 92. if it is a 8v, then it should have the 4.62 gears,  you could switch to the 5.13's but i dont know if that would be good enough for everyday use, you could always get some new transfer case gears, that should be more than enough.
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Re: gearing
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2006, 03:52:38 AM »
I ran a 16v and 4 speed auto with 33x9.5's. It is driveable but it does hurt. The best thing I did was alter the cam timing to bring the power in earlier. You may be able to hunt around and find some 5.6 diff gears.

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Re: gearing
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2006, 08:15:29 AM »
Anyone daily drive a kick with 31's with stock gearing.  1.6l 8v manual.  How well does it do with only 31's. 
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Re: gearing
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2006, 09:49:59 AM »
   My Kick has 31x10.5 and the 5.12 gears and its fine on the street.  Not sure about the 4.62 gears though.
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Offline kirknd4spd

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Re: gearing
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2006, 11:38:35 AM »
calmini says that the transfer case gears only lowers high range on samurais, so that wont help me on the street.
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Offline blacknight

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Re: gearing
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2006, 11:47:44 AM »
I thought 89 kicks had 10 bolt rears if so Calmini should have 10 bolt 5.8 R&P's for the rear.

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Offline ZeusZuki

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Re: gearing
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2006, 10:01:17 PM »
Blacknight,

I thing you will find the 10 bolt r&p's are for the smaller front 10 bolt diffs ( Vitara ) or smaller front and rear 10 bolt diffs ( 413 / Sammies ).

Hell if it was that easy I would go get a rear 10 bolt Vitara diff and do my r&p's. But sadly it is not  :'(

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2.0 V6 auto, Calmini 3" kit, 33" jandles, LT struts, blah blah

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Offline kirknd4spd

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Re: gearing
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2006, 10:30:34 PM »
so the front and rear 10 bolt r&p's are different sizes in a sidekick?
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Re: gearing
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2006, 12:38:55 AM »
Yes, the front of a SideKick is the same size
as the front and rear of a Sammy, if there were
a way to use the front of a SideKick, or a Sammy
carrier in the rear of a SideKick, you could get 5.38
gears all day long, but sadly the 5.38 ratio is not
much lower than a 5.12 stock R&P from a manual
trans, but the Sammy gears are available from Yukon
for like $150 per set.

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Offline kirknd4spd

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Re: gearing
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2006, 01:00:01 AM »
do sidekicks with auto trannys have different r&p from manual trannys?  mine has auto.  so...if an 89 kick with a manual tranny has 5.12's, and if mine is geared higher, i would benefit from the 5.12's, right?  how much would that help turn the 33" tires i have?  what ratio does mine have now?  4.62?  sorry if i dont pick up on this stuff real quickly, but im new to suzukis, and dont know too much about them yet, but im learning a lot.
thanks!
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Re: gearing
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2006, 07:01:50 AM »
Calmini used to list 10 bolt rears, I used one in mine. Their web site only lists the 12s now and they are still shown as unavailable.
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Re: gearing
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2006, 08:20:36 AM »
do sidekicks with auto trannys have different r&p from manual trannys?  mine has auto.  so...if an 89 kick with a manual tranny has 5.12's, and if mine is geared higher, i would benefit from the 5.12's, right?  how much would that help turn the 33" tires i have?  what ratio does mine have now?  4.62?  sorry if i dont pick up on this stuff real quickly, but im new to suzukis, and dont know too much about them yet, but im learning a lot.
thanks!

Yes, you are right, you have 4.62's now, and 5.12's from
a Man Trans would help, but 33's is a big tire, and tough
to rotate, I had them on with 4.62's and the turbo, but I
was afraid for the transmission (auto) so I got the 5.83's
to help reduce the load.

With the gear calculator I once figured out that 35" tires
make the 5.83's the same ratio as stock on 235 tires, unless
I did something wrong, but I show faster on the speedo than
my real rate of travel, so my calculation is probably right .

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