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Offline Bobzooki

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Evil Seed:  9 Inch Anvil?
« on: January 07, 2005, 03:28:23 AM »
Imagine this:  Make a unit like a Calmini Anvil, BUT - make it for Ford 9 inch 3rd member, CENTER it, use only the very shortest inner shafts possible, and use front CV axles from an IFS full-sized pickup truck.

Longer axles = better CV angles.
Truck CV axles = stronger.
Ford 9" = strong, and lots of options.

Do the same thing in the rear, and put disk brakes on it.  Spidertrax has a Spider 9 axle - well they TALK about it!  http://www.spidertrax.com/chassis.htm
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Re: Evil Seed:  9 Inch Anvil?
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2005, 03:37:18 AM »
930 cvs and sway away axles have better travel and have been proven in baja for years plus they are avail in any length.

But it could be done with either using micro stubs from Kar Tech. Wild and I talked about this once still may look closer.

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Re: Evil Seed:  9 Inch Anvil?
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2005, 03:41:10 AM »
you can buy housing out of Jegs that are sheet metal and look really cool.  i think that would be rthe easyest housing to use.  i have been thinking about a 9in center mounted but a saw Mike has a friend that has already done it.  but i don't have much lift nor will i ever so i just wrote it off.

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Re: Evil Seed:  9 Inch Anvil?
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2005, 04:14:25 AM »
Sammy rear, cheap, easy to weld, seals are right already, has the right gear ratios for the rear, easy to cut pucks and use hardened axle shaft stock to make an alignment jig. then flange the axles to fit 930s and the rest can be pruchased from the sandrail off road guys. I bet you could get 40* out of 930s and you use the splined axles for the slip istead of the cup. Just internet engineering for now but why not you tell me.

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Re: Evil Seed:  9 Inch Anvil?
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2005, 06:13:50 AM »
I like the idea ... if I dunstand properly (not solid swap up front, but a beefier IFS).

Not furd tho ... maybe a cheky 1/2 ton pickup donor (IFS model but part time 4wd). Perhaps even keeping the torsions (or not).

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Re: Evil Seed:  9 Inch Anvil?
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2005, 03:17:31 PM »
I like the Idea ;D
Now some one build it ;D
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Re: Evil Seed:  9 Inch Anvil?
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2005, 03:50:58 PM »
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I like the idea ... if I dunstand properly (not solid swap up front, but a beefier IFS).

Not furd tho ... maybe a cheky 1/2 ton pickup donor (IFS model but part time 4wd). Perhaps even keeping the torsions (or not).


Furd 9" > Chebby 1/2 ton shit.

That's something I've been wondering about... only with the TTB D44 from the front of my bronco. Just some cutting and it'd be ready to use as an IFS centered diff.
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Re: Evil Seed:  9 Inch Anvil?
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2005, 04:49:04 AM »
    Lms is hard at work right now on a new front end for the Real Red Wagon (the last ones in 3 pieces ;D) we've got a tracker rear that we will be seting up to run just as the aluminum front does now, however it will be flanged on both sides and feature '01 and up style  chevy 2500 cv's. We think we've got the right ones now. Our front track will be wider prob. by 2-3" and will have our still as untested A arms so the 2500's cups will fit. the axle will also be mounted somewhat differently to better distribute the forces applyed to it.

   the front axle is by far the weakest link on the rig so were going to take our time and play around with some other ideas as well but right now I'm pretty sure this is how it's going to be. I just recently got a daily driver so I can take my time on this one and get as crazy as I want  ;D




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Re: Evil Seed:  9 Inch Anvil?
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2005, 05:39:52 AM »
Can some elaborate more on the 930 cv's and shaft?  I'm drawing a blanc on them?
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Re: Evil Seed:  9 Inch Anvil?
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2005, 05:43:18 AM »
Ok, found them.



930 CV Joint
High Angle Porsche 930 CV joint. Perfect for any high performance off-road application.

Our Price: $55.00


These CV's are used on Dune buggy with a rear powertrain.  Like out of a VW bug.  Unlike our CV's where the inside CV bearings slide back and forth. These CV's slide on the alix shaft spline.

So unlike ours when the CV bearings slide to the end of the CV where it's the weakest, these have no weaker points.

Also you will get a greater angle out of the axils.

I'll have to think on this...
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Re: Evil Seed:  9 Inch Anvil?
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2005, 06:44:43 AM »
I listed some details about the CVs on
the Track/Kicks in a post several months
ago, the inner CV on the Track/Kick has a
max angle of 25* mainly I think because
of the cup, but the outer is built like the
930 CV you see in the post above, with
a few differences, like it's assembled into
a stub axle, but it also has a 40* drive angle
like the 930 CV does.

Best option would be to have a slip shaft,
but not slipping thru the CV (where is it going to go?)
there isn't any movement room on a Track/Kick
front axle for it to go into.

But strong these are, I only have heard of
a few guys blowing out he outter CVs on the Zuks

Wild
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Re: Evil Seed:  9 Inch Anvil?
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2005, 11:07:36 AM »
my brother runs 930 CV's n his dunebuggie he hase a 3 vw bus tranny and a dinoed 450hp 302 bored .30 over, with afr head, 785 cfm carb, 36" swamper irocs. and can run 9.8 in a quater. he has never broken one of these CV's
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Re: Evil Seed:  9 Inch Anvil?
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2005, 12:05:22 PM »
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my brother runs 930 CV's n his dunebuggie he hase a 3 vw bus tranny and a dinoed 450hp 302 bored .30 over, with afr head, 785 cfm carb, 36" swamper irocs. and can run 9.8 in a quater. he has never broken one of these CV's


Well yeah, the CVs are going striaght. Most of the zuk cvs break under turning and power application and they snap like tooth pics or that crappy aluminum thing explodes...
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Re: Evil Seed:  9 Inch Anvil?
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2005, 02:27:56 PM »
i have some picks of the buggy rock crawling/jumping i'll try to find them and post.
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Re: Evil Seed:  9 Inch Anvil?
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2005, 07:39:02 PM »
kerrywittig, put me down for one complete system with tora axles. im gettin excited here and i cant wait. also can i be first in-line. could you give us some estimates on price ranges for this. thanks for your hard work and keep it up.    

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