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Offline bzzr2

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anybody using smaller than 6000lb winches??
« on: December 19, 2006, 09:06:15 AM »
i'm wondering how well i'd do with a MileMarker PE4500 http://www.milemarker.com/PE4500.html ?apparently my tracker weighs in around 2800lbs.  anybody use this winch before?  also curious about mounting without adding a winch bumper, looking for pics..  i have only removed the bumper covers and will not be adding a bumper.  i don't see the weight or prettiness being required!

i've decided to go this route since nobody makes a locker for my year of tracker and it's less than 1/2 the price anyway (for ARB that is - it's a DD)

thanks - B
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Offline Rhinoman

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Re: anybody using smaller than 6000lb winches??
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2006, 09:13:46 AM »
I wouldn't advice less than 8000lbs, the rating is usually a rolling load (ie not stuck!). Even with an 8000lbs I have had to double back the cable when winching up a sharp incline.
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Re: anybody using smaller than 6000lb winches??
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2006, 09:33:06 AM »
I wouldnt go with that winch, its not big enough to be used right.
This is what most of the people i wheel with are using, im thinking about getting one for my rig soon.  You can find them other places for 400 bucks, but i have seen this winch pull people non stop for hours and never even make a bad noise.

http://www.autoanything.com/winches/69A2249A0A0.aspx


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Re: anybody using smaller than 6000lb winches??
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2006, 12:13:26 PM »
What about a 2" receiver front and rear welded right into the frame, and have a quick electrical plug in for your winch mounted on a thick plate, and 2" tube....

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Offline bzzr2

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Re: anybody using smaller than 6000lb winches??
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2006, 12:33:32 PM »
the receiver front and back idea was what i've been thinking for some time actually.  i'm not sure what the final plan will be - money will determine, also updgrading suspension again so bucks also going there..

03-ZR2, 2dr, 31x10.5 SSR's & stuff...--sold :-(
03 xl7, jeff's 2inch spacer lift, 225/75/16's; sold
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Offline RShrimp

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Re: anybody using smaller than 6000lb winches??
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2006, 07:56:37 AM »
http://www.winchking.com/subpage8.html

I just ordered this one. Pretty impressive specs for $399

I should be there when I get home today. I will have more to say after christmas when I test it out
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Offline Digger

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Re: anybody using smaller than 6000lb winches??
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2006, 09:41:58 AM »
Actually I have been running a milemarker e3000 on the front of my silver Tracker and has worked great for me. I did manage to break the cable once, but that was my fault for shock-loading it while it was stretched over a sharp rock ::). It's not very fast, but it does get the job done. I don't know if I would trust the stock bumper to mount anything to, it's just body thickness steel and is only held on by 2 10mm bolts per side...
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Offline bzzr2

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Re: anybody using smaller than 6000lb winches??
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2006, 10:44:30 AM »
interesting..  do you use a snatch block with it or just straight pull most of the time?  i wouldn't actually mount it to the bumper, somehow in behind it or make a plate that attaches to the frame then goes over top..
03-ZR2, 2dr, 31x10.5 SSR's & stuff...--sold :-(
03 xl7, jeff's 2inch spacer lift, 225/75/16's; sold
09 taco reg cab short box 4x4

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Re: anybody using smaller than 6000lb winches??
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2006, 11:26:05 AM »
I wouldn't advice less than 8000lbs, the rating is usually a rolling load (ie not stuck!). Even with an 8000lbs I have had to double back the cable when winching up a sharp incline.
Wow how much does your rig weigh? I use an 8000lb winch and it would winch my old 5600lb (trail weight) Trooper verticle. I'm guessing it would rip my Sammy in half if I gave it a chance.
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Offline prairie_dog

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Re: anybody using smaller than 6000lb winches??
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2006, 11:33:33 AM »
  I use the 4500 milemarker on my 85 sami (lift & 31's) it works just fine with no snatch block, even pulled da tub's 4 dr up a decent hill but it took a little while. My sami is 2400 lbs and most winch companys recommend a winch that is double the vehicle weight or more. I bought this one because it's only 60 lbs vs. 80 or 90lbs of a 8000 or 9000lbs winch.

 My .02
P.S. I've had this for just over a year now and it's still working like new.

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Offline bzzr2

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Re: anybody using smaller than 6000lb winches??
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2006, 12:08:16 PM »
  I use the 4500 milemarker on my 85 sami (lift & 31's) it works just fine with no snatch block, even pulled da tub's 4 dr up a decent hill but it took a little while. My sami is 2400 lbs and most winch companys recommend a winch that is double the vehicle weight or more. I bought this one because it's only 60 lbs vs. 80 or 90lbs of a 8000 or 9000lbs winch.

 My .02
P.S. I've had this for just over a year now and it's still working like new.

 Steve. :)

the light weight is one of the factors i'm looking at also, glad to hear your happy with your 4500.  does it tend to pull slow compared to the bigger winches most of the time?  i'm not overly concerned with speed in the long run, dependability is most important.
03-ZR2, 2dr, 31x10.5 SSR's & stuff...--sold :-(
03 xl7, jeff's 2inch spacer lift, 225/75/16's; sold
09 taco reg cab short box 4x4

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Offline Digger

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Re: anybody using smaller than 6000lb winches??
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2006, 09:40:18 PM »
I have a snatch block but haven't used it yet... LOL! ;D
Had a cool sig pic till I changed the text... sigh...
90 Tracker: "Silver", 2" BL, 1-1/2" Coil Spacers, Strut mount flip, Calmini Header, Winch, 31" Swamper radials, Sold.
98 Suzuki X-90: Calmini 2" Sus, 1-1/4" whl spcrs, 2" Exhaust, Cobra Safari Bar, Neon, Sold.
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Re: anybody using smaller than 6000lb winches??
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2006, 04:47:03 AM »
Wow how much does your rig weigh? I use an 8000lb winch and it would winch my old 5600lb (trail weight) Trooper verticle. I'm guessing it would rip my Sammy in half if I gave it a chance.

It isn't that heavy, but mud up to the axles adds a lot of drag.
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Re: anybody using smaller than 6000lb winches??
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2006, 04:13:27 PM »
harbor frieght has a 5500 pound winch that has a shipping wieght of 58 lbs. I was going to see what brand it was price being 299.00
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Re: anybody using smaller than 6000lb winches??
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2006, 04:38:26 PM »
Update , 5500 lbs chicago electic 3.4hp motor 80ft i/4 cable $259.00,3000lbs 1.8hp 45ft 3/16  cable 17.5lbs shipping wieght.
94  Zuki sidekick 2 '' spacer. 3'' body 31'' Bfg MTs,miller lckr rear . Wifes ride, 93 Zuki sidekick,30'' Super Swampers digger spacers,Miller locker rear.88 Zuki,POS,full cage,31 "BFG MT's,Miller rear, lock-rite front,and 5:13 gears.