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jookycola

where & how: lower gears for bigger tires
« on: January 02, 2005, 11:45:09 AM »
i've been here a while now and know i need to get lower gears for my kick when i finally go with bigger tires and lift.  but i don't see where i can purchase those lower ratios you all talk about.  i see calmini offers lower gears for transfer case, but not the actual transmission.

where & how do i get these?

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Re: where & how: lower gears for bigger tires
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2005, 11:57:48 AM »
You can't regear your transmission, you can regear your differentials. And your transfercase's Low range only.
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Re: where & how: lower gears for bigger tires
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2005, 11:58:12 AM »
Driveline catagory
Ring and Pinion gears 5.83 ratio
about $600

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mudfkr

Re: where & how: lower gears for bigger tires
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2005, 01:10:10 PM »
jooky|removethispart|@Suzuki,

Just remember that Transfer case gears for a Sidekick will only give you a low range reduction, If your looking
at running larger tires and want to get your high range down to accommodate them aswell you'll need  ring and pinions, they will give you a reduction in both ranges.
« Last Edit: January 02, 2005, 01:11:09 PM by mudfkr »

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Re: where & how: lower gears for bigger tires
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2005, 02:14:20 PM »
do what I'm working on!

Drop a sammi t-case in behind a 2wd tracker tranny.

1.4 HI RANGE reduction. Plus the low range is better also. Like 1.8 vs 2.2 or something like that.

Be able to pusj my 31's just fine and then some!!  :o
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Re: where & how: lower gears for bigger tires
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2005, 02:26:10 PM »
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jooky|removethispart|@Suzuki,

Just remember that Transfer case gears for a Sidekick will only give you a low range reduction, If your looking
at running larger tires and want to get your high range down to accommodate them aswell you'll need  ring and pinions, they will give you a reduction in both ranges.


hang on!
these
http://www.roadlessgear.com/page/RGL/PROD/D/RGRS
are supposedly a double gear drop for the xfer case. drop in high and low gear range. any opinions on this? i think it'd be a hellof a lot cheaper than dropping both the difs and x-fercase gears. :D

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mudfkr

Re: where & how: lower gears for bigger tires
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2005, 04:42:13 PM »
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hang on!
these
http://www.roadlessgear.com/page/RGL/PROD/D/RGRS
are supposedly a double gear drop for the xfer case. drop in high and low gear range. any opinions on this? i think it'd be a hellof a lot cheaper than dropping both the difs and x-fercase gears. :D


Those are Samurai gears which are available with a high range reduction as well.  ::)


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Re: where & how: lower gears for bigger tires
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2005, 05:06:22 PM »
So why would he want to spend money when he could just put it in low range and leave it there?  my high range has a 1.579 reduction, not too far off from 1.8 in the trackers or kicks.
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Re: where & how: lower gears for bigger tires
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2005, 05:13:07 PM »
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Those are Samurai gears which are available with a high range reduction as well.  ::)



well sorry they didn't specify..maybe they'd fit anyways :D

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Re: where & how: lower gears for bigger tires
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2005, 01:40:26 AM »
so where is the cheapest place to get decent tcase gears for tractors?  last I checked, calamini wanted a g-note for their 4:1
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Re: where & how: lower gears for bigger tires
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2005, 02:03:03 AM »
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So why would he want to spend money when he could just put it in low range and leave it there?


Are u serious?

I guess with the 2wd low kit, it would be possible... ?


« Last Edit: January 03, 2005, 02:03:17 AM by adamd »
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jookycola

Re: where & how: lower gears for bigger tires
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2005, 02:55:21 AM »
well, i'm going with a 3 inch lift and 32's, i also live in highway infested Los Angeles...that means i need the rig to be able to still reach highway speeds when not being off roaded, and on road driving will 75% of what this truck will be doing since it's not only my getaway car...but also my ONLY car :P

so what gears should i need to maintain freeway speeds?..and how much would they run?...and where can i buy them?

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Re: where & how: lower gears for bigger tires
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2005, 03:45:17 AM »
I run 33s on mine with stock gears.  it needs just a bit more feathering to get rolling off the line, and because of the extra diameter of the tire I roll at 4000rpm at 70mph in 4th, where a stock vehicle will cruise at 4000rpm in 5th at 70mph.
Because you dont have any mnore horsepower availible, you wont actually go any faster on the highway just by changing gears, you will just get your 5th gear back.  
if you install 5.89:1 gears in your diffs, you will be able to take off faster from a dead stop, and on the highway you'll cruise in 5th, much like when your vehicle was stock, except of course powerlosses from having all the extra weight on your wheels.
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mudfkr

Re: where & how: lower gears for bigger tires
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2005, 05:11:37 AM »
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so where is the cheapest place to get decent tcase gears for tractors?  last I checked, calamini wanted a g-note for their 4:1


Trailtough have the cheapest  4:24's I've seen  , directly off the web site:

Trail Tough's NEW 4.24:1 Rockmonster gears for the SUZUKI SIDEKICK/TRACKER 1991 to 1998 and the SUZUKI VITARA AND GRAND VITARA 1999 to 2001 are here!
These gears provide 134% low range reduction from stock.
Item #RMG-424 Retail Price $895.00

SPECIAL INTRODUCTORY PRICE OF $649.00 - BUY NOW AND SAVE!!!
http://www.trailtough.com/


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mudfkr

Re: where & how: lower gears for bigger tires
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2005, 05:35:20 AM »
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well, i'm going with a 3 inch lift and 32's, i also live in highway infested Los Angeles...that means i need the rig to be able to still reach highway speeds when not being off roaded, and on road driving will 75% of what this truck will be doing since it's not only my getaway car...but also my ONLY car :P

so what gears should i need to maintain freeway speeds?..and how much would they run?...and where can i buy them?


I'm running 32's on mine with the Calmini 4:24's and stock diff ratios at the moment. I find with the 32's I can hardly use 5th gear on road any more and  acceleration sucks hence why I'm going to fit 5:83 R&Ps from Calmini.

Only Down side to fitting the 5:83s (for me any way) is low range is now about as low as I want for the trails I wheel ( I don't have rocks to climb :P) and with the 5:83's although it will get my 5th back it will also lower the range another 14%.

Are you running an auto or Manual  ? as that will make a difference to what R&P's you'd want to run with 32's

Calmini drive train page: http://www.puresuzuki.com/new_page_5.htm
« Last Edit: January 03, 2005, 05:37:12 AM by mudfkr »