can't decide. will the rig be alot more capable with the home made lift ad 31's? or do the 235's do just as goo. i'm by no means hard core but do enjoy the recreational side ofit. like mudd, and creeks. should i spend the extra on alift or for just a littl bit is it a waste seeing as the rubber cost more and gas goes down? any input?

Well, are you getting stuck yet?  A lift for the sake of a lift is rather silly, build your rig for what you need and use.  If you can go 95% of the places as you are, do you really want to triple your investment to go that extra 5%?  I like 31's as they really aren't that expensive to step up to, and they shouldn't break to much on your system.

I say wheel your rig as it is now, and see if you need to go any higher.  Be careful though, it can be addictive. 

I say lift it to the sky I have 11in of suspention lift and run 39s toy motor running gear 488 gears and still get stuck just not as close to the road. Oh yea it's addictive.

Hey costa, Does your 20r do all right with 39s on 4.88s?

I say lift it to the sky I have 11in of suspention lift and run 39s toy motor running gear 488 gears and still get stuck just not as close to the road. Oh yea it's addictive.

Can you post some pictures?

hey. i didn't wnat todo it so much as for perfomencewise(which is why i'm doin the homemade kit) but i just like th looks of sitting higher with lots of rubber. i just dunno ifits worth puting the time intoit. how ong a kick normall run for? mine has 225K on it. can exect atleats doubble with reg tune ups or is she near the end?

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/costa05/0204071257.jpg    http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/costa05/DSC00399.jpg


Here you go.

if your'e gonna wheel it..get a small lift, i've only added a 2" shackle lift, but i'm able to fit 29" mudders in there. If you go any higher then 29", you're going to have to change your gear ratios, or else your ride is worthless offroad. if you're just looking to put some rubber in for looks, i'd highly suggest looking to a body lift. most people will flame that idea because it does increase the chance of tipping, but if you're not offroading it, who cares, just throw in like 3 or 4 inch body spacers for a couple hundred bucks and throw some tires on it. good luck either way.

p.s. if you go over a 3" lift, you're basicly forced to add longer u-bolts and you're going to have to extend your steering or else you may not be able to make 90degree turns =p

Stock zuk moter with 36s ran good and I ran the ever loving piss out of it http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/costa05/sc00001cfc.jpg

if your'e gonna wheel it..get a small lift, i've only added a 2" shackle lift, but i'm able to fit 29" mudders in there. If you go any higher then 29", you're going to have to change your gear ratios, or else your ride is worthless offroad. if you're just looking to put some rubber in for looks, i'd highly suggest looking to a body lift. most people will flame that idea because it does increase the chance of tipping, but if you're not offroading it, who cares, just throw in like 3 or 4 inch body spacers for a couple hundred bucks and throw some tires on it. good luck either way.

p.s. if you go over a 3" lift, you're basicly forced to add longer u-bolts and you're going to have to extend your steering or else you may not be able to make 90degree turns =p

I won't "flame"  a 3" body lift...... I would prolly laugh at a 4" body lift though...   Besides, he has a Kick, so your advice isn't spot on.

Also, I don't think a 3" body lift would make a Kick all that tippy, but in my book it's MORE important onroad, at highway speeds, at least off road, a tippy vehicle isn't as dangerous, since you are usually going a lot slower than on the street.

OK, sorry, I truly don't mean to flame your post, but I do disagree... quite a bit, with most of it.

Now, to SK101:
A spacer lift on a Kick isn't that bad at all, what is Digger charging nowadays?  Definately less than a hundred, and they are good up to 30" tires, pretty easily, if you watch your offset. A small lift can get you some really useful benefits on the trails.  I have rarely been wheeling with "lifted to the sky" Sammys that I haven't seen one tip over on trails that my 3" lifted green Tracker just cruised.  Yeah, lifting them high is great for mud, but pretty horrible for tight twisty, off camber trails.  Keeping them low also gives you exceptional overhead clearance, and MUCH MUCH less tippyness on tight off camber stuff, less scraping on very off camber situations with trees or rocks close by... all sorts of stuff.  Very lifted vehicles usually SUCK OUT LOUD on those sorts of trails. I have seen it DOZENS of times.

So, basically, it's up to what kind of trails you do. 

My advice on a Kick:  Lift it a little,  gear it a little, lock it up and enjoy making  very expensive Jeeps very jealous and/or pissed off.

Well put Quaddawg, I want to piss off many jeeps this summer!
Jim

well thanx quad dog. got me sold onthe idea on leaving er the same as she sits except for a little spacer lift. i dunno why but i like the loooks of loits of rubber on these little guys. so thanx again

If you put 12 0r 14 inch rims you will displace the wieght over a larger area. Although clearence wise you got me there an I truly don't know what a rock looks like living in Fl. It is the magic kingdom though maybe they could make some rocks out of fiberglass or something.