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Offline zaggy

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How much power?
« on: June 20, 2005, 07:02:10 AM »
     AS you guys have probly noticed I really enjoy building and researching engines, and now my curiosity is up.
    More power is a fairly constant topic on this board as are engine swaps (and I promise to finish posting the 2.0L as soon as it's done). But what are most Suzuki owners really looking for in the Track/Kick/Sammy's.
    Some guys like Wild and I are fairly out there but everyone claims to look for "a little more". I would be willing to do a more extensive post as I am getting ready to build another engine if I can get an idea of where the interest is and what level of capability it should be written to.

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Offline chet

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Re: How much power?
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2005, 07:49:48 AM »
I have a 4 door 8v on 30" tires and stock gearing. Yes the motor is probably a little tired but all I want is enough power to hold 5th gear going up hills on the hiway. new I was 80 HP? so somewhere around 100 would be ideal.
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Offline SnoFalls

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Re: How much power?
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2005, 08:00:00 AM »
I think around 100hp would be good.

Today my 1.6 has about 130-135 psi on each cylinder so I'm under stock hp I'm sure. Still does ok, but just a bit more to keep hwy speeds would be good.

I've also found when I'm wheeling, I'm usually running around 2000rpm (mines an auto). Would luv to get some more torque down low like that.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2005, 08:00:29 AM by SnoFalls »
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Re: How much power?
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2005, 08:26:46 AM »
I can do the valve grinds, rehone the cylindars, dont know much about the 5way grind you have talked about, or port and polish, would like to know a way to do that, maby a detailed measurments on a turbo manifold, and what else you have to do to these motors to make them turbo, will the pistons hold, do you need to resleve, any of that.  

I would like the blowoff valve sound. just to make people think     ??WTF??
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Re: How much power?
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2005, 08:33:29 AM »
i woudl love to be at 100 hp, and be able to pull 5th gear up soem hills  8)

my lug nuts require more torque then my engine makes ;)

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Offline Chief

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Re: How much power?
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2005, 08:43:55 AM »
125 would be GREAT. If somehow some more low end torque could be added, that would be ideal.
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Re: How much power?
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2005, 09:01:28 AM »
marine 3.0 ironduke 4 cylinders  engines are the answer.  only  135 hp but amazing torque and reradily availible aftermarket parts.
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Offline zaggy

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Re: How much power?
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2005, 09:06:30 AM »
I'm not trying to get into swaps with this....

    I'm just trying to find out what you guys would like from a stock type engine and I might try to do a reasonably affordable on line build up that I can post for all.

Zag
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Offline Mythose

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Re: How much power?
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2005, 09:22:43 AM »
100 hp mark would be nice, i would like to test the efects of a snorkel, on power. and also the electric super - chargers? sposed to add 15 - 20 hp? i duno 20 hp at the tuch of a button would be cool
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Re: How much power?
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2005, 10:06:46 AM »
After contemplating both an XL7 V6 swap and a Chevy 4.3L swap, I think I'm going to keep the stocker for now and do some work on it to squeeze out a little more juice.

What I'm after is decent power throughout the RPM range, which the 1.6L 8v might not be able to do for me, but I think I may try it a little further before dumping the engine. By good power, I mean the ability to spin upwards of 36" tires :)

But yes, any engine work stuff that you have to post, please do so! And remember, the more pics you have to go along with the post, the better ;D
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Re: How much power?
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2005, 03:12:42 PM »
I think a stroker, 1.6 in the area of
1.8L would be a good torquer as well
as need a bigger cam that could get
into the 110-125 range in N/A form

For me, a stroker, Blown or Turbo at
around 10-12 PSI boost and 7.5:1 CR
a little more cam for around 200-225
HP would be a sure kick in the arse in
a 2500 Lb SideKick

A 3mm increase in bore and a 6mm
increase in stroke would give you about
1835cc engine, reduce the bore 1mm
and the stroke 1mm and you get a 1769cc

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Offline zaggy

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Re: How much power?
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2005, 03:23:31 PM »
Ok guys
   
    I'm getting the picture (other than Wild who is too much like me) the concesus is to build something to produce a real 90-100 hp and write it so that rookies can understand it. Am I right or do you have more suggestions?

Zag

Ok wild when it's done we will add the TPI mega squirt system, Subaru turbo, intercooler and nitrous fogger and still tell everyone it's stock...ok
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Re: How much power?
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2005, 03:26:09 PM »
Turbo is stock .........   On a Subaru  ;)
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Re: How much power?
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2005, 03:28:44 PM »
Nitrous is stock on a Supermarine Spitfire

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Re: How much power?
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2005, 03:30:35 PM »
Hmm .... yep   all stock
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