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Offline 96track

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FLAT TOWING (HELPPPPP)
« on: December 19, 2004, 10:50:43 AM »
ok guys
I flat towed my 96 tracker automatic today, here what I did, I put the trans in nuetral and t-case in nuetral and after a 10 mile drive at speeds of 55 I stopped to find out that there was gear lube everywhere. I started freaking out thinking that I just fried my BRAND new 4.24 t-case gears, but after furthur inspection everthing seems to be fine. my ? is should I have taken the driveshaft out and where did all the gear lube come from?

any help would be appreciated.

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Re: FLAT TOWING (HELPPPPP)
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2004, 10:55:00 AM »
leave the t case in 2wd, I heard that when the t case is in neutral it acts kind of like its in 4wd and all the gears turn .. so its better to just have it in 2wd.. I was told this by our local "suzuki expert" haha.. made sence to me though, I flat tow my LJ 80 buggy to the trails and leavin the case in 2wd is the only way to go, or else it tows like crap and makes bad noises :-/  hope that helps a little... also where was all the gear lube? like where did you find it when u stopped?
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Re: FLAT TOWING (HELPPPPP)
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2004, 10:57:41 AM »
Ask 5 people and get 5 different answers. I have heard that you should put the transmission in park and the T-case in neutral for flat towing. Sounds like a seal either isn't seated right or got munched during the install...
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Re: FLAT TOWING (HELPPPPP)
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2004, 11:11:24 AM »
    I'm with digger on this one the Real Red Wagon is an auto and I always flat tow with the t-case in neutral never had that problem :o. sounds like a seal  ???

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Offline 96track

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Re: FLAT TOWING (HELPPPPP)
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2004, 11:45:23 AM »
thanks for the comments, the lube was all over the place but a great deal of it was on top of the t-case and some even on my trans pan. is there a seal on top of t-case? can I change seals without dropping case?

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pat
96 track  2 inch susp, 3 inch body,512's, 4.24 to 1, rear locker, 31x12.50 boggers, warn 8000, custom front and rear bumbers. lined and diamond plated interior.

1988 sammy  spoa with cj's rear and rears up front, 4.16, rear locker, 31x 12.50 boggers, full cage by migoffroad .com
the silver sammy is mine, they use it as a display for there cage work.

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Re: FLAT TOWING (HELPPPPP)
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2004, 11:47:48 AM »
forgot to add that I have allready wheeled her 2 times after gears where installed with no leakage but I did sumerge it on my last trip and had to drain and refill.
96 track  2 inch susp, 3 inch body,512's, 4.24 to 1, rear locker, 31x12.50 boggers, warn 8000, custom front and rear bumbers. lined and diamond plated interior.

1988 sammy  spoa with cj's rear and rears up front, 4.16, rear locker, 31x 12.50 boggers, full cage by migoffroad .com
the silver sammy is mine, they use it as a display for there cage work.

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Re: FLAT TOWING (HELPPPPP)
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2004, 11:56:19 AM »
I know it sucks, but it is best to pull the shaft.  I just pull it at the axle and tie it up under the truck, make sure that you secure it well, both sides of the splines.  (you dont want to loose half your shaft on the way there)

I can pull/install a shaft in about 2 mins. Heck it probaly took longer to type this.

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Re: FLAT TOWING (HELPPPPP)
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2004, 12:49:15 PM »
I have flat towed my 97 many miles with no problem.  Transfer case in neutral and auto in park.  Only thing the odometer keeps turning.  Mine has been flat towed about 30,000 miles.
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Re: FLAT TOWING (HELPPPPP)
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2004, 02:22:01 PM »
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I have flat towed my 97 many miles with no problem.  Transfer case in neutral and auto in park.  Only thing the odometer keeps turning.  Mine has been flat towed about 30,000 miles.


Ditto.  I have pulled mine on a dolly with both in neutral with no problems.  If I was going on a long trip I would pull the driveshaft.  to the guy asking about the oil, what's low ???  If the tcase is low, then I'm guessing it came out of it ;)
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Re: FLAT TOWING (HELPPPPP)
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2004, 08:24:32 PM »
Tow it backwords. Thats the way i towed my samurai when i blew it up. It worked great, p.s you can get a tow dolly for about $500 and use it for any car.
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Re: FLAT TOWING (HELPPPPP)
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2004, 02:10:21 AM »
my tracker was pulled back and forth across the US behind a motor home several times and never had the DS pulled..the car works like new and has no side effects from it

it is a myth to pull the DS if everything is working properly putting the shifters to N will mean its totaly free wheeling..but everything has to be working properly
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Offline JasonPugh

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Re: FLAT TOWING (HELPPPPP)
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2004, 02:40:16 AM »
You guys can do as you please, I have seen driveshafts slung out of a towed vehicle (granted, that would not be "working properly" as was previously suggested)  The other concern that I have is I have heard of T cases being jolted or bumped into gear and then trying to turn over the motor and destroying stuff.   Your 4 minutes worth of time now just cost you a heck of a lot of $$$

Also a sammy is supposed to have the T case in N and the tranny in 2 when flat towing to help lubricate the bearings.  You still need to stop every 200mi and run things around to ensure good lubrication. (This is according to Suzuki)

With a sammy T case N actually locks the front and rear driveshafts together, thats another reason for ne to pull the shart.

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Re: FLAT TOWING (HELPPPPP)
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2004, 07:17:21 AM »
I'd imagine that the safest way is to disconnect drive lines at the diffs.  
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Re: FLAT TOWING (HELPPPPP)
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2004, 07:58:19 AM »
We need a full floater with lockouts!!!

Wild was working on something like that.  He mentions it every now and then.

I might end up with a dana 44 and then get a floater/hub lock kit.
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Re: FLAT TOWING (HELPPPPP)
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2004, 09:12:03 AM »
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We need a full floater with lockouts!!!

Wild was working on something like that.  He mentions it every now and then.

I might end up with a dana 44 and then get a floater/hub lock kit.


The full floater and hubs are easy but the axles cost more than it would be worth. unless you have a mil with the right tail stock then you could respline stock axles to fit stock front hubs.

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