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Offline blyota91

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Roll Cages
« on: December 17, 2004, 01:42:40 PM »
When  I put my samurai together I am planning to put a roll cage into it.  Does anybody have any input on the ones that you can buy on the net, like the Calmini, or the davesport?  is there other good ones around?  I am planning to cut the body off behind the doors too.  The Calmini concerns me because it bolts together.  I won't be needing a back section, but if it has bars that extend downward into the back I could make some supports to them.  Has anybody ever had a cage made, what kind of cost would I be looking at there?

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Re: Roll Cages
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2004, 04:44:40 PM »
I know a guy who can build them but your back east and Im on the west coast. too much to ship. I can do tube doors though ;D

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Offline phoenix827

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Re: Roll Cages
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2004, 02:50:30 AM »
Try Jegs,http://www.jegs.com I know they have a bunch of cages and kits.

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Re: Roll Cages
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2004, 08:27:48 AM »
The ones at calmini and other places like it arent roll cages but sport cages meaning that if you were to compete it would not be allowed. Now i dont know if want to compete or if you just want a nice cage but if not a precut/prefab cage would be just fine for weekend wheeling and driving around town.

Now as for tubing the back we did this to a sammy a while back and just caging the cab is NOT a good idea. you really want to put bars that bolt/weld from the cab to the end of the frame and the put some sort of gusseted angle bars goind back to a support bar behind the cab. This is the strongest design, but it you want to do a flat bed sort of thing then you could work with it but if you want strength then doing the 45 bar idea is good.

I have made about 8 cages for different vehicles 2 for sammies and on both just the material was about $40. This is of course with shop discount but you want to use minimum of: 1/12" .120 wall DOM or HREW tubing. And then there is also paying for wire and gas and weldor time if you dont have one available.
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Re: Roll Cages
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2004, 08:33:41 AM »
Heres some cage work, although its on a fullback sammy you get the idea, this one was done by TatorZuk

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Re: Roll Cages
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2004, 02:48:26 PM »
 :o WHOA! I bet that wouldn't bend even going off the empire state building! NICE work!!

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Re: Roll Cages
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2004, 10:44:16 PM »
One answer!

http://www.rock4xfabrication.com

This is the custom cage they built for me. He does really nice work and the prices are right. He has been in business for 2 years or so. Give them a shout and ask for Scott. He's a madman with a bender ;D





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Re: Roll Cages
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2004, 10:54:53 PM »
That's a damn good looking cage :o I cant wait till he gets some Kick stuff going 8)
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Re: Roll Cages
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2004, 01:18:29 AM »
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One answer!

http://www.rock4xfabrication.com

This is the custom cage they built for me. He does really nice work and the prices are right. He has been in business for 2 years or so. Give them a shout and ask for Scott. He's a madman with a bender ;D

Awesome cage !! Pity there's no-one here making these cages ( Netherlands, Europe ), been Emailing with Ray at RhinoRays in England to come over for a short holiday in Brighton and put the Sammi in his garage and have him make me one of his exo-cages. Might do that somewhere next spring ( saw a nasty roll-over happen this weekend at an OffRoadevent and would really like a caga !! )
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Re: Roll Cages
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2004, 03:08:06 AM »
I had mine made up by a local guy in the UK, he pretty much did it how i wanted it to look even aloowing me to open my roof. I helped along the way and it took some doing as we were keeping to the competion regs. 40mm cold draw seemless steel, here are some pics











sorry about the size

hope that give you an idea
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Re: Roll Cages
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2004, 03:32:18 AM »
It does, thanks.

How about the connection with the sidebars, I understood it's wise not to weld the cage to the sidebars but have it slide over slightly smaller upright tubes on the sidebars so there's no ( how do I put this in English ? ) "stress" on the chassis/cage? I saw on Ray's site he does that as well, bolting the cage to the sidebars. The guy I talked to last month had the cage lose on the tubes on the sidebars and bolted to the bed and the piece of metal just in front of the windshield.

I'd like the rearsection to mount to the rearbumper just on the outside corners so I can still use the kid covering the bed ( still have to make th ererabumper, keeping that plan in mind )
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Re: Roll Cages
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2004, 05:02:27 AM »
i see what your saying , mine bolts through the chassis in 4 places the chassis used to move but not anymore its kind of braced the opposite way. the side bars are made out of the same tube as i had them made into rock sliders at the same time

One job for next year is to brace acorss too but thin gauge stuff to keep the weight off.

Yours will be sorted once you have all the ideas and get it made up.
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Re: Roll Cages
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2004, 07:10:02 AM »
I picked up the Davesport cage and it bolted in fine.  The only problem is my Bestop Fastback top won't fit any more due to the bar being a bit further back.  :D

It doesn't bolt to the frame stock, but I am going to mod it a bit.  I haven't fliped the vehicle yet, but dropping my SJ on it's side didn't seem to tweak it much at all.


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Offline blyota91

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Re: Roll Cages
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2004, 06:31:30 AM »
I really like that rock 4x fabrication cage, unfortunately that isn't too local to Vermont.  I'd imagine shipping would be kind of ridiculous.  I'm going to look around here for places that make them, we have some small local circle tracks here so there must be somebody who builds decent cages.  But keep the pics and websites coming.
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Re: Roll Cages
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2004, 10:27:01 AM »
Shipping isn't bad........ if you can weld. He ships it in pieces, then you assemble it. I think it is less than 100 bucks to ship it via freight. Come to think of it, way less
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