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ben_unruh

buying/begginer Questions
« on: November 18, 2007, 11:42:11 AM »
i saw this samurai for sale but all it says is "to much to list"


im a new driver
(this would be my first car)
and i know almost nothing about cars.


what questons should i ask this guy???
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Offline Carnage

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Re: buying/begginer Questions
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2007, 12:32:05 PM »
would you take 500?


 :P
ask the basics first

clean title, no tickets/accidents/damage/rust
any work been done/needs to be done
how many miles

how much they asking?
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ben_unruh

Re: buying/begginer Questions
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2007, 12:43:36 PM »
5g's


the main reason i like it is it has a metal grill and not one of those cheesy plastic ones.

 ::)
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Re: buying/begginer Questions
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2007, 01:54:12 PM »
A metal grille should be the last reason to buy your first car, lol.  Like said above, look for rust, any oil, fluid leaks.  Make sure you test drive it.  Check for clutch slippage.  Take a look underneath to see for any hidden rust.  And make sure he has the title and its clean.  Also if the mileage is very low, it may be false.  Look for a clean engine compartment and worn pedal pads...they can be a good reference to see if its the actual mileage reading.  Do a carfax check too if possible.
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Re: buying/begginer Questions
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2007, 04:15:19 PM »
5 grand for a sami ... WOW, what's this world coming to.

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Re: buying/begginer Questions
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2007, 04:51:10 AM »
Quote from: ben_unruh on November 18, 2007, 12:43:36 PM
5g's
the main reason i like it is it has a metal grill and not one of those cheesy plastic ones.
 ::)

Are you sure its not a plastic one thats painted? Only metal ones that I know of are the early SJ410 grills and its not one of those.
Looks like it could be SPOA if so ask about steering linkages, Z-bar or Hi-steer. Any kind of anti-wrap linkage at the back? Who made the perches?
Find out what mods its got and then search the forum to find out how good they are likely to be.
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Re: buying/begginer Questions
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2007, 06:55:35 AM »
    Sami's get even more expensive than that on ocasion.One recently sold here foe $6500 but it was an amazing rig.Still about twice what my cheap a** would pay though.
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Re: buying/begginer Questions
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2007, 04:46:18 PM »
That should have the 1.3L EFI engine in it, probably why he wants so much.  You don't see to many early 90 Sammys....
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ben_unruh

Re: buying/begginer Questions
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2007, 10:50:19 PM »
does this seem any good??

http://fresno.craigslist.org/car/453273783.html

im gonna try talk him down to 3500


on that note, any tips on how to talk someone down??


btw. no one go to fresno and buy this before me.
dibs! :P
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Re: buying/begginer Questions
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2007, 11:04:18 PM »
Quote from: ben_unruh on November 18, 2007, 11:42:11 AM
what questons should i ask this guy???

Uuhhhhh....  Why green ??? comes to mind.

That looks like an early 90's Sammy which may be part of the reason for the high price, not too many of those around.
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Re: buying/begginer Questions
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2007, 08:10:46 AM »
He says it is an 88 which would make it a carbed 1.3. The only mod looks to be a shackle lift and a little larger tires. I am not sure this is worth 4,000 though. The body does look to be in fairly good condition but like it says it has seen salt and has some rust. In Fresno California you should be able to find something without rust. Others here could probably give you a better estimate of what it is worth but I would guess about 3,000 mostly because of the low mileage.
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Re: buying/begginer Questions
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2007, 02:34:31 PM »
Quote from: ben_unruh on November 23, 2007, 10:50:19 PM
on that note, any tips on how to talk someone down??


just go to a couple yard sales first
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ben_unruh

Re: buying/begginer Questions
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2007, 07:10:17 PM »
I got him down to 3500$ (all my 16 yr old self has)
but i found out it doesnt pass smog because he took out the warm air actuator valve and the warm air actuator, and he says he has the part and will include it at the sale. 

does anyone know how hard it is to intstall the part, (he says it is just some housing.) and if it is hard, how much does it cost to have it installed.

also how much does it cost to get it smogged??
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Re: buying/begginer Questions
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2007, 07:35:56 PM »
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I got him down to 3500$ (all my 16 yr old self has)

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but i found out it doesnt pass smog

Ben, Look, for what it is worth this might not be the truck for you. I am sure that 3500 is more than it is worth, and it will not even pass emissions. You are going to give him all your money and then you have to fix it? Tell him that you will buy it for 3500 if he fixes it so it will pass emissions. Even then the rust bothers me. you live in California, it should not be hard to find one without rust that will pass emissions for around the same money.

The last thing is the shackle lift. the first thing you will need to do if you want to have a serious off road vehicle is take the shackles off and replace them with a real lift. Again more money gone from you pocket before you start.
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ben_unruh

Re: buying/begginer Questions
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2007, 07:51:27 PM »
K thanks everybody

im gonna keep waiting it out for a good deal then.


if anyone knows of a good sammi, close to san jose, CA, let me know.

any other good places to look other than here and craigslist?
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