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Re: OUCH! (roll vid)
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2004, 08:21:51 AM »
that's the first thing I noticed. His cage held up pretty well considering he went over several times. But the heavy distortion to the passender side makes me glad he was riding solo. That was  serious roll and He faired well. I am glad to see that the roll didn't dampen his spirits. Some people give up the sport after the first roll.
Glad everyone is OK thanks for the vid.
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« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2004, 09:25:00 AM »
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that's the first thing I noticed. His cage held up pretty well considering he went over several times. But the heavy distortion to the passender side makes me glad he was riding solo.
he wasn't solo. He had a passenger. And that was a Petroworks sport cage he had. it was the next piece to be upgraded, but was hastened a bit, shall we say. ;D
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Re: OUCH! (roll vid)
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2004, 09:53:46 AM »
the passenger is 6'4". His head was in my lap (uh, not before the roll) which prevented it from getting squashed. As far as wheeling it with the cage like that, the trail was short and there were no other off camber spots and my passenger rode with someone else. I didnt wheel it after the cage was cut out. As far as I am concerned the cage did its job, it was a hard roll. I have a better cage now
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Re: OUCH! (roll vid)
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2004, 11:05:55 AM »
   Yes, a welded cage is waaay better than a bolt togethor design. I hope he learned his lesson about them.
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Re: OUCH! (roll vid)
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2004, 04:57:42 AM »
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the passenger is 6'4". His head was in my lap (uh, not before the roll) which prevented it from getting squashed. As far as wheeling it with the cage like that, the trail was short and there were no other off camber spots and my passenger rode with someone else. I didnt wheel it after the cage was cut out. As far as I am concerned the cage did its job, it was a hard roll. I have a better cage now


Glad things worked out on the survivability of that roll.
Have you reviewed the roll from your climbing up the wall, to your final frontal endo?
Was it possible that you could have placed the tranny in reverse, bump in gear, to get the weight off the initial roll?
Same for holding the brakes when you went over the front endo?
I'm just figuring out some my own limits with different vehicles and at times (one with the auto) I stall the climbing ability, then push more to go forward raising a tire and getting light up front, heavy in back. When I get off the gas, the front drops drastically and I do loose the traction point of the rear tires.

Just wondering if you analyzed the video for such things.
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Re: OUCH! (roll vid)
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2004, 11:25:38 PM »
I'm glad everyone came away from that OK! from the looks of the cage, I wouldn't have guessed the passenger faired too well.

Didn't mean to upset anyone, it's just that if that were one of my buddies rolling like that, I'd have been on my way down hill before he came to rest.

Again, glad to hear everyone's OK, and back in the saddle again  ;)
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Re: OUCH! (roll vid)
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2004, 11:47:25 PM »
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Have you reviewed the roll from your climbing up the wall, to your final frontal endo?


Just wondering if you analyzed the video for such things.
 I understand what you mean, but even that video doesn't describe the difficulty of that one section. It is BRUTAL! seriously steep and off camber everywhere. Once that roll started, there was no stopping it, no matter what you try.
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Re: OUCH! (roll vid)
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2004, 12:07:28 AM »
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that video doesn't describe the difficulty of that one section. It is BRUTAL! seriously steep and off camber everywhere. Once that roll started, there was no stopping it, no matter what you try.


I second this.  The video makes it look kinda flat but it's anything but flat.  The reason he kept on rolling was because it's down a hill.  There's also a second step just before the one he slid off.

Most of us have looked over that video to try and figure out what happened.  The general consensus was that there was just a tad too much throttle at the highest point, which unweighted the front tires enough to let the front start sliding to the right.  From there its just the shape of the rocks and the steepness of the hill kicking you around.

I have some still shots of trucks going up that rock face.  I'll see if I can find 'em.

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Re: OUCH! (roll vid)
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2004, 03:13:27 AM »
I thought the problem was it spun around his right rear tire instead of it grabbing traction and popping over the rock.

Other then the cage and windshield supprisingly little damage.  Most end-over's like that end up with the hood smashed in.  Any shots of the new cage Zooky?
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Re: OUCH! (roll vid)
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2004, 06:45:34 AM »
Hey Zooky, that is a good looking sami.  What are the specs?  Amount of lift, wheel/tire combo?  How about a pic with the new cage.

Scott
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« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2004, 07:29:31 AM »
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Hey Zooky, that is a good looking sami.  What are the specs?  Amount of lift, wheel/tire combo?  How about a pic with the new cage.

Scott
here's a couple from a run earlier this year...
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Re: OUCH! (roll vid)
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2004, 07:30:33 AM »
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Hey Zooky, that is a good looking sami.  What are the specs?  Amount of lift, wheel/tire combo?  How about a pic with the new cage.

Scott
'Nother angle...
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Re: OUCH! (roll vid)
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2004, 08:32:54 AM »
thanks for the compliments and posting the pics. Its a Rockrat cage, its pretty stout. I tied it into the frame this time and I am adding some rear bars and a few other reenforcements this winter. The specs are: Shaffer coil suspension with Land Cruiser axles locked with longfield birfs, 4.56 gears and 35" beadlocked MTR's; Sidekick 16v engine and automatic transmission, Kicker3 w/4.16 gears in the sami case and all the other normal add-ons. This winter I am also adding hydro-assist to my FJ60 P/S (been having steering issues all summer) and pushing the rear axle back 12". I would like to step up to 37's but the 35's are new and I would take too much of a loss on them. I have another mod in the that I am keeping a lid on for now.
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