Okay so i was wondering about getting all that suspension lift and bigger tires. and maybe some off set rims. i already have 31''s.  but i am kinda getting worried about my cv's. and the tire allignment. does anyone know how much suspension lift i cna get tell its to much stress for my cv, or the IFS itself or the A-frame?or will it be better off if i just get a suspension lift and just convert to the toyota axels?please any help or advice or imformtation. at this point this is my biggest concern.

I dont do rock crawling. i mean i like to flex, the only time i do rock crawling is when there are some rocks on the trials or a hill climb or heavy terrian area. other then that i do pretty much eveything besidds sand. just for kicks and giggles

Hello,

Well with what you just stated.   If you want to feel better, get a steel housing and steel 3rd member and maybe ford explorer CV joints.  just those 3.  that's more than just good enough.

Or just the Cv Joints with Mike hagen's widening mod.  If you do just cv joints, the next weakness will head right back to the 3rd member.  I replaced my front 3rd with rear steel sami 3rd.  Because I wanted the 26 spline side gears (it was so cheap that i had to pick it up).   I use axle shafts from 96 and up track/kick and the XL7 too  (Im currently looking for a spare).   So... there's alot of cheap options and its all about luck too.  There's craigslist, 4x4 forums and some wreckyards letting parts go for virtually almost nothing.    Just my .02


if you decide to go SAS route, I would suggest only if you do some serious hardcore offroading.  The cost is way more involved than what I just mentioned. 

There's trail tough slayer kit, 2700 easily.

Or just pick up the front toyota axle and get a maybe YJ springs hook it up.  Modify the perch on the passenger side of the axle.  (there's a kit for this from SKy-manufacturing. but it says its only for the SAMI, but I believe this will work with KicK/Track).  I know a friend who did this.... excluding the kit for the sami. 

I would say this route is alot cheaper.... maybe.... $600 including the axle.  Depends on your luck on finding it and the price.   Most of the front axle are ranging from 450 to 600 complete.  Ive seen a few that has gotten as low as 200. 

i was just thinking personally on just getting3''-6'' suspension lift then get the toyota axels. i dont want 4 link suspension cyase i rarely do rock crawling. just for fun or of i need to get over them and somtimes like to flew out, but kmost of the time i di hill climbs, not major ones like those jeeps but just ones that dirtbike can do, and i do trials mostly. and mud, but not that deep shit just mud up to my mumber and water  a i lil below my hood. i dont do much sand just for kicks and giggles. but if u said for totoyta axel witht he yj springs for under 600$then maybe i can invest. i am just worrying about yusing my 31's and riding so hard that my cv will bust or my a-frame will snap. i am not to wory about my rear solid axel. mite get toyota too, just to match my front if i get one too so i can run the same set up all around.

Even if you dont do rock crawling, the YJ springs will do its trick.  I rode my friend's kick with YJ springs.  At first,  I was concerned about the weight of kick/track and how the springs will handle it. But it has proven me wrong.  Becasue the Samurai are very light.  When I had my samurai, I had YJ springs on it, I couldve swore i was running on Coil springs.  And as for off roading, it did really well.  Surprised the hell out of me. 

If you're looking for 3-6 inch lift.  YJ will do it for you. 

Plush ride and alllot of flexs.  You will be surprised on how much lift the yj springs gives you for your kick/track.  I ve seen 35"s on just stock yj springs.

I personally think YJ springs are the best way to go if you're looking for all around.  DD, off roading.  It will hold up. 

I believe the rear springs is about 5 to 6 inch longer than Sami.  Front is about 4" longer.  If i remember correctly.
It has been about 4 years since I owned a samurai.  I have 1990 Tracker, I plan to do this YJ swap in the future.

 I use axle shafts from 96 and up track/kick and the XL7 too  (Im currently looking for a spare).   

GV and XL7 axle shafts are too long (by about 1") for a Kick axle, due to the stoopid air diff thingy-who.  You *could* cut it down, but that will effect the heat treating and be easier to break.

I have a 26 spline inner shaft on Ebay.

okay cool so with yj springs do i have to do any conversion then?i think i will go with yj springs

Well, there's fabricating and welding to do this.  What I m planning on is.... make couple brackets for the rear and front ends.

Weld on perches if necessary.

Cost.  It really depends.....  lets say....

Stock toyota axles.... 350 for front.  100 to 150 for rear.

Yj leaf springs.... maybe if ur lucky... free.  To 200 for 4.  I recommend stock used yj springs.  Because it has been "broken" in.  So that's what u want.

There's 4 pack and 5 pack leaf springs.  When I had my sami, I used 5 pack in front and 4 in back.  Worked like charm. 

Hope I helped.

Good luck with your project. 

Quote from: TrakJD on February 22, 2008, 09:59:28 AM

 I use axle shafts from 96 and up track/kick and the XL7 too  (Im currently looking for a spare).   

GV and XL7 axle shafts are too long (by about 1") for a Kick axle, due to the stoopid air diff thingy-who.  You *could* cut it down, but that will effect the heat treating and be easier to break.

I have a 26 spline inner shaft on Ebay.

Yes You are correct about the XL7 shafts, I had them shortened and resplined.  Since I am chef myself, I have a few gallons of liquid nitrogen that I use with my cooking.  I would heat the axle shafts to where its almost glowing then dip them in Liquid nitrogen.  It has held up fine so far. 

But Yeah, Im just looking for a spare, since you got one.  I assume you're asking $44.99 for it?

so would u recondmend the 4 pack and 5 pack for my sidekick? i have all the supplies and skills neccesary. so rite now i am just getting point of veiws and what needs to be done

Yes.  If you dont like how the front is, you can always take one leaf out.