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Offline big_kountry21

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HELP!!!
« on: March 23, 2008, 11:57:14 AM »
alright guys and gals,
   i worked on the timing on my trak. it fired right up and i put everything back together and it was running fine..... it died and won't start back up. its getting fire and fuel.....i don't know what to do. any input will help.... HAPPY EASTER!!!!
camo 96' trak 16v 2dr 4x4
235/75/R15 MT's 15x8 black wagon wheels
5.13 gears 3" calmini body lift..

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Offline big_kountry21

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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2008, 07:51:02 PM »
?anybody?
camo 96' trak 16v 2dr 4x4
235/75/R15 MT's 15x8 black wagon wheels
5.13 gears 3" calmini body lift..

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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2008, 07:58:59 PM »
big_kountry21
if you have spark and you have fuel, and i assume you have compression, then it should run.
what did you work on when you worked on your timing?
did you remove the distributor?
richard
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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2008, 08:42:38 PM »
?anybody?
your online thing is lit.
thought maybe i could help.
need better data.
richard
'89 kick w/little motor, still got pieces of jeff's pucks, stan's sticks into 4.24:1 tcase, 31x10.5x15's, rear lockrite, kick power steering, some radios(kj6esv), bmw seat, other changes just because. done on the cheap.
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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2008, 09:00:51 PM »
Timing belt?  Hope not.  Your sig shows a 16V so that would mean possible engine damage.  Probably just pull the valve cover to check to see if you have movement.

Wait..  check your fuse box.  My 8v died while I was backing out one day and it ended up being a fuse for the injection system which was like a 15 amp fuse in the fuse box under the dash.  I was stumped and embarrassed as I was picking my 2 year old up from the daycare.  After refusing a few ride offers I found the issue.  My zuk teaches me humility.   ???

Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2008, 09:07:06 PM »
and.  I know you said you have spark but there is also a coil fuse in that box too.  Heck, check all the fuses.  ;D

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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2008, 05:08:34 PM »
i'll check fuses tomorrow.... worked a 14 hour shift today. ..i'll keep ya'll updated. any other suggestions would be great.... i was changing the tensioner.
camo 96' trak 16v 2dr 4x4
235/75/R15 MT's 15x8 black wagon wheels
5.13 gears 3" calmini body lift..

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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2008, 08:12:58 PM »
you can pull the dist cap and turn the key make sure it turns (that means the timing belt is fine) then check your three points f timing setup (crank at 12 o'clock e mark at 12 o'clock and dist at cyl 4) remember counter clock wise (unlike the repair manual tells you) the new tensioner could have slipped, did you run it and then recheck tension?
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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2008, 07:49:52 PM »
i'lll check that stuff thanks. i've been workin 14's this week but i'll check it this weekend.
camo 96' trak 16v 2dr 4x4
235/75/R15 MT's 15x8 black wagon wheels
5.13 gears 3" calmini body lift..

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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2008, 05:48:58 PM »
okay everyone i figured it out, it was a redneck engineered fuse.. thanks for the help.
camo 96' trak 16v 2dr 4x4
235/75/R15 MT's 15x8 black wagon wheels
5.13 gears 3" calmini body lift..

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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2008, 04:26:33 PM »
Timing belt?  Hope not.  Your sig shows a 16V so that would mean possible engine damage.  Probably just pull the valve cover to check to see if you have movement.

Trackick 16Vs are not interference engines....contrary to what some manuals state.
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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2008, 07:10:16 PM »
why are there so many reports of bent valves and head replacements on 16v engines after a timing belt break then?

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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2008, 09:25:23 PM »
why are there so many reports of bent valves and head replacements on 16v engines after a timing belt break then?

The car 16Vs are interference engines.....maybe that is what you have heard about.  Or the 16V cam bearings (I know it doesn't have actual bearings, but it is where the cam rides on the head....so for lack of a better term...) gets rough and the cam hangs up and that is what breaks the belt, so that is why the head needs to be replaced.
I haven't ever seen, or even heard of, a trackick 16V bending valves.  Although I do personally know some people that have checked the trackick 16V engine to see if it is an interference engine, and it is not.......so I am going by info I got from a reliable source.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2008, 09:27:09 PM by Skyhiranger »
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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2008, 04:05:26 PM »
That's weird because I am sure that most timing belt replacement directions for 16V specify no more than so much turn for either cam or crank with belt removed.  I'm not going to experiment with mine either way!
I used to be indecisive but now, I'm not so sure.