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Offline wilderness

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On-Board Air
« on: July 21, 2008, 10:42:26 PM »

   So I bought a nice 12v 150psi tankless air compressor from a cheap import tool company. I have bought lots of stuff from them and know as long as you don't abuse them and buy the extended warranty for 7 bucks you are good to go.

Any how, I bought this compressor in hopes to make a nice on-board air system. I need some input on a couple things.....

   1:   I want to mount a 2-5 gal tank some where in the Sammy and I have that part covered. But the compressor or tank does not have a pressure shut off switch. I would like some ideas on how to make a pop off valve that shuts off at about 100psi. Do they make them to order and where is a good place to find them.

    2:  Do they make air or cable lockers for the stock Samurai diffs?

    3:  I want to add a second battery in the back. Should I just go ahead and plan on adding a bigger alternator or will the extra voltage help take the load off the stock alternator?


Thanks for any help -Chad

     
1986 Spring Over, AC, Need Power Steering, Line X interior, Bikini and Wid jammer, On- board air.
Soon: Lockers, Cage, Ramsey 8k with custom bumpers, Lots a Rocks!

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Re: On-Board Air
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2008, 11:39:14 PM »
I use a 12 volt compressor for my on board air, I bought a pressure switch from viair it shuts the compressor off at 105 psi and turns it on at 85 psi
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Re: On-Board Air
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2008, 12:51:15 AM »
Thanks, do you know if they have a web site?
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Re: On-Board Air
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2008, 01:14:10 AM »
Never mind, I found a place to buy it. Is is the 85 psi on 105 psi off with a built in relay.
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Soon: Lockers, Cage, Ramsey 8k with custom bumpers, Lots a Rocks!

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Re: On-Board Air
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2008, 04:16:24 AM »
That should work for running an ARB.  I believe they have an 85lb minimum.  I would have to double check the paperwork though.

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Re: On-Board Air
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2008, 10:21:04 AM »
Does this little comp look somthing like this by any chance?


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Re: On-Board Air
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2008, 11:57:19 AM »
Does this little comp look something like this by any chance?


Amilla


You got it buddy. Alot of folks would advise against such "junk" but one mans trash is another mans treasure right? I put that bad boy to the test and it pumps up pretty quick!

So arb does sell a air locker for the stock Samurai?
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Re: On-Board Air
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2008, 12:06:46 PM »
Does this little comp look something like this by any chance?


Amilla


You got it buddy. Alot of folks would advise against such "junk" but one mans trash is another mans treasure right? I put that bad boy to the test and it pumps up pretty quick! How much was it advertised for?

So arb does sell a air locker for the stock Samurai?
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Soon: Lockers, Cage, Ramsey 8k with custom bumpers, Lots a Rocks!

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Re: On-Board Air
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2008, 02:43:18 PM »
Yes ARB has a product out for samurais.

Are you going to use it to air up tires along with an ARB?


My buddy had that same compressor on his rig for a while, it worked pretty good on smaller tires when airing back up from 5 psi.  But on bigger tires (32's and 33's)it would over heat and then shut off and decided not to start back up for about 45 min.
He had the same warranty on it so he just took it back the next day.

Amilla


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Re: On-Board Air
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2008, 03:50:07 PM »
I have a little red air compressor from Napa that works great.  It airs up 33" tires in a couple of minutes, but runs out of steam once you get around 25-30lbs of pressure.  It doesn't overheat though, even after using it on a couple of vehicles.  I think Smitty Built now sells a version of it with their name plastered on the side.

But I can't imagine how long it would take to get an air tank up to 100+ lbs.  I would spend the extra money on a Quick Air or an actual ARB air pump.  For my ARB setup I use their new mini pump that can only be used for a pair of ARB Lockers.  It will burn out if I use it for tires, but I have the little red pump for that.
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Re: On-Board Air
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2008, 06:26:16 PM »
I'm not sure yet if I'm going with the ARB's yet. I really want a locker with a cable to engage it to be honest.

I am actually using the compressor for tires and fence repairs. I build alot of 4 board pasture fence that frequently gets damaged. Most of the fences are on muddy farms and through the mountains making the Samurai a perfect little board replacer capable of shooting 10 or 12 3" ring shank galvanized nails!
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Re: On-Board Air
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2008, 09:48:47 PM »
Suprised it has not come up yet, so I'll throw it out.  What about a A/C conversion?  I am going to do one soon for the tracker.

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Re: On-Board Air
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2008, 12:11:28 PM »
Those work great.  Sold a Samurai to a guy who did that to his AC pump and it was solid.  I think there is a write up on either Acks Faq or Suzuki Info that shows how to put it together.
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Re: On-Board Air
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2008, 01:21:08 PM »
Suprised it has not come up yet, so I'll throw it out.  What about a A/C conversion?  I am going to do one soon for the tracker.

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Also - no need for bigger alternator unless you're hanging a lot of things that DRAW power to the system. Adding a second battery is like adding a second gas tank. You don't need a bigger engine to run a bigger gas tank... it just means you have more energy (fuel) available if you need it.
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Re: On-Board Air
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2008, 07:51:42 PM »
My Samurai has the AC on it but it's missing the condenser and that's it. I even have a 50lb tank of R12 with gauges and a vac in the basement. So I kinda want to use my AC for AC. But that's a great idea.
1986 Spring Over, AC, Need Power Steering, Line X interior, Bikini and Wid jammer, On- board air.
Soon: Lockers, Cage, Ramsey 8k with custom bumpers, Lots a Rocks!