Ok heres my delema. I have no reverse light, hazards or blinkers. I've changed the flasher (twice). I've tried hooking up just the L and X terminals that someone reccomended but to no avail. So I want to pull the cover off the steering wheel to check out the wiring and switch. I've got the whole dash loose and still can't get the dam cover off due to the hazard lights switch.  Also cant locate the blinker relay?? Any thoughts, theories, suggestions and imputs welcome.

I guess I should have stated its a '87 Suzuki

Thanks!

Buy a Torx bit set, remove the flat plastic panel on the bottom of the driver's side and you'll see 2 torxbit bolts that hold the column on.  Remove them abd the steering column will drop down.  Remove the steering wheel (do that first actually).  Then remove the couple dozen screws keeping the plastic steering cover on.  Once it's removed there are 4 small screws holding the flasher switch unit to the column.  Unplug it from the wiring harness and install with the replacement one.  Then reverse the disassembly instructions.

Thanks Capn.

I was going to pull the steering wheel but I don't have a pulley puller or tool that will pull the steering wheel off.

Do you have any ideas to why the hazards, turn signals and reverse lights wont work??

Take the big bolt off the center of the steering wheel hub.  From there you can do one of 2 things.  1.)  Yank on the outter wheel rim ad the 12 and 6 position.  This usually works.   If you still can't remove the wheel, 2.) put the bolt back on the column but leave the bolt at the eng of the threads and tap it with a hammer a couple of times.  The wheel should pop off.  If not, repeat step one.  But, DON'T bang too hard on the column with the hammer (use light taps).  Bang too hard and you risk trashing the threds or colapsing the plastic retaining pins on the column in the engine compartment.

I don't suspect that it's your flasher switch but rather  suspect your wiring.  But, the flasher unit is a first place to start.

Have you had any holes in your exhaust recently?  The reaosn I ask is I had a hole in my exhaust that blew hot air into the trans tunnel that eventually melted my wires together.  It was like Greg Brady's Chevy 'vert.  I'd hit the horn and the wipers would turn on, the brake lights turned the headlights on, etc...  I had to swap the entire harness out.

OK, I won't say it because I know you checked the fuse.

Just thought I'd add that you can usually borrow a steering wheel puller from local auto parts stores (around here anyway).

Good Luck.  I hate wiring problems!

I agree it doesnt sound like your switch to me either but as an FYI the Blinker relay is hidden under the computer.  There are three or fore othe relays that hook to the bottom of the computer that are pretty easy to see but the blinker relay is tucked between the computer and the metal bracket that holds the other relays.  To change it it might be easiest to drop the computer down and flip it over to gain access.  There are two silver 10mm bolts that you can see threw the drivers side speaker hole that you will need to remove then the computer should come up and over the bracket the bolts were in and then down and out.  

Thanks guys!

Yes I checked the fuses I did find a 20amp fuse blown but it hasnt blown again.

I will try the steering wheel again tonite. If it doesn't work I will get a pully puller.

I will check the relays also tonite, the computer is just hanging down so that should be an easy check.  

The more I read and research the more it sounds like just a dam ground wire but where and which one is the question.

Thanks again people! Any other ideas or thought just throw them out!

There are three ground wires behind the dash.  There is one on each kick panel (the flat panel beside where your feet go).  They are about two thirds of the way up the sides.  The other one is on one of the column bolts I think the only way you can get at it is to pull the dash.  If your going to pull the steering wheel its not very hard to pull the entire dash so you can see what your doing.  Just pull the wheel then remove the directional assembly.  There are three screws on top of the dash and three or fore on the bottom of each side.  Pop you glove box out and you can get at the 4 bolts that hold your OH S#!t  handle.  Lastly remove the heater knobs and just pull the panel insert over the heater controls out.  There are two screws in there If you remove them you can just leave behind the heater controls rather than having to mess with the cables.  Lastly there are 2 wiring connectors that you can get at threw the drivers side speaker hole once you start to remove the dash you'll see which two are the correct ones.  Keep in mind that if you have added any wiring for lights or something that you may have to remove that before your dash will come out.  Now that I think of it there may be one more ground wire on the firewall but you should be able to see it easy with the dash out.


Hope this helps,
Patrick

Thanks tracker.

There are no kicker panels in the cab. The cabs pretty much empty except for the dash and seats. How do I remove the heater control knobs???

Well I have to get a pully puller for the steering wheel.

I have no relays on the back of the computer. Could they be on the back of the fuse box?

I did find the ebrake sensor cable disconnected. I connected but it didnt solve the other problems.

Also found a wire that was broken. I runs up the driver side rocker panel. When I touch the wire to ground with the ignition turned it beeps? WTF? Its not he seat belt beep, its like a reverse signal beep?? There doesnt seem to be any door sensors, I cant firgure out the stupid beeping I'm lost?? Also I don't have 12v to the wires for the cab light. How does the cab light get turned on and off? I'm finding a few wires that don't plug into anything but no ground wires that aren't connected.

Thanks people for helping!

Sounds like the wire you have is the door switch.  When It grounds out it will turn on your dome light and beep when your lights are on or if your keys are in the ignition.  The heater nobbs just pull off.  I just reread your first post and got worried.  You said Suzuki not Sidekick what do you have Im talking about trackers and sidekicks I know nothing about sammies.

Sounds like the wire you have is the door switch.  When It grounds out it will turn on your dome light and beep when your lights are on or if your keys are in the ignition.  The heater nobbs just pull off.  I just reread your first post and got worried.  You said Suzuki not Sidekick what do you have Im talking about trackers and sidekicks I know nothing about sammies.

Yes I kinda figured that but any thoughts are good right now seeing how I am stuck. I know things are different but aren't they still pretty similar?

I know things are different but aren't they still pretty similar?

I don't really know how similar they are but I hope some of what I said helps.  I have made steering wheel pullers myself in the past.  You just need to drill a couple holes in a piece of flat plate.  There should be two or three thredded holes in the steering wheel just line up the holes on the plate to match them and use two long bolts with nuts on them to pull the wheel to the plate.


The top is what you should be looking at on the steering wheel.  On the bottom is how to mount the puller on the wheel.  The grey represents the steering wheel and the shaft coming out of it.  Thredded rod works the best just start it in the holes in the wheel and tighten the nuts down

Sounds like the wire you have is the door switch.  When It grounds out it will turn on your dome light and beep when your lights are on or if your keys are in the ignition.  The heater nobbs just pull off.  I just reread your first post and got worried.  You said Suzuki not Sidekick what do you have Im talking about trackers and sidekicks I know nothing about sammies.

But if its a door sensor where is the sensor/switch at. There are not switches on the door jam on either side. Nothing!! So thats why I'm confused on the dam beeping. It maybe the key on swich beeping? I know its no the ebrake??

I got a pully puller but I'm afraid of breaking the steering wheel. To pull the steering wheel off all I have to do is remove the one nut and washer? Correct??