well my 91 1.6 had rusted out down pipe ,broke manifold and lots of holes in exhaust. i installed a hedman header, 2 inch exhaust magna flo muffler, getting tail pipe in the morning. i started it tonite and man its louder then i thought it would be and it sounds hallow. i might try to put converter back in . oh well. still had less in it than if i would have bought just the converter. plus its my first mod!! matt