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Offline bandit86

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« on: April 10, 2009, 03:38:43 PM »
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after - 8 inch lift on 32s

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Re: project not yet named
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2009, 03:41:05 PM »



this needs a custom bumper, I dont have any ideas at the moment
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2009, 04:57:10 PM »
Do I see a frame chop & drop? Looks great!  8)

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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2009, 05:37:26 PM »
Specs and info on the build?

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91 Sidekick jx
2" BDS supension lift
2" BDS body lift
1" Coil spacers
32" TSL's and some other stuff I did And now with a Lockrite!  www.cardomain.com/memberpage/783382

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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2009, 06:29:25 PM »
6 inch frame chop and drop. 1 inch coil spacers, xj springs with 3 inch spacers in the back, custom lower arm and balljoint bracket
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2009, 08:53:56 PM »
Looks similar to mine! I did an eight inch chop and drop with 2 inch spacer in front and grand cherokee springs with 4 inch spacer in rear. I made my front bumper. Just used 4x6 tubing notched and welded where needed and i think i looke pretty good!
89 Sidekick. 33's.  Lincoln Locker,4.24 T Case, 5.13 gears. Warn M8000 winch.
96 Tracker. 39.5's Locked 44's front and rear, 6.5 t case, 4.10 gears.

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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2009, 08:55:55 PM »
I have since capped of the ends so it matches the body line and wheel well!
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89 Sidekick. 33's.  Lincoln Locker,4.24 T Case, 5.13 gears. Warn M8000 winch.
96 Tracker. 39.5's Locked 44's front and rear, 6.5 t case, 4.10 gears.

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Re: project not yet named
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2009, 07:31:18 AM »
that looks exactly what I'm looking for, do you have any clearer and larger pics you can send?

thanks
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2009, 07:59:10 AM »
I love the frame chop lift, good to see it being done more. One question though, what is it you're doing to keep it straight? It's definatly something I could do but I'd be worried about it not driving straight on the road due to problems aligning it.

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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2009, 10:53:20 AM »
I can help you as much as I can  if you want to proceed, mind you, having done it, I wont do another one.   with all the work, would have been easier to do a SAS

IF YOU CANT WELD DONT DO IT! 

I leveled the frame with 3ft level side to side and front to back on jack stands.  one corner of the shop was sloping, needed an 1/8 inch washer under the frame.  nex I took a ton of measurements.  frame to floor, front subframe all 4 corners to floor.  in order to keep everything lined up, I dropped a plumb bob fron the corner of the bumper bracket on both sides and marked the floor so that I will always go to the same spot when measuring.  I dropped a line and marked the frame in several spots, both horizontal and vertically, so if in doubt I will have references later.  do this as high as you can, I left it too low and had a hard time crawling under the truck to grind and weld. 

I did the 6 inch drop for a reason.  I wanted 4, but 6 gave me more room to get in with a gun to weld.  have jackstans under the subframe (4) when grinding, or you will kill yourself.  disconnect the steering shaft, enginemounts and get a cherrypicker to hold the engine while you drop the subframe.  watch out for brakelines and gaslines.   I had to cut some brackets off to give me room to move on the passenger side, but all hoses were long enough.   on the drivers side, the brakeline goes through a hole in the fender, I cut straight up with a sawzall to the hole, bent it out and pulled the brake line down.  Note, none of my brakelines or gaslines were disconnected.   Powersteering if you have it, low pressure hose is too short, drain that first.  the sub  frame narrows as it goes up, you will have to chop it to slide it down.  I cut the corners with a sawzall and left as much as possible.

drop 6 inches, make sure it's level, your measurements are 6 inches off.  side to side inthe front, go with the plumb bob again. 

weld every inch you can.  I did multiple passes to get nice thick welds, and after I put 4 inch wide 1/4 inch fishplates on the sides, covering as big anb area I could, 6-8 inches before and after each joint and welded again, braced the top, boxed it. 

the right side motor mount is good, just need a 6x3 square tubing cut to extend it.  the drivers will not fit.  I used the original mount on the block and turned it upside down, used half a 6x3 cut in a [__  shape and another flat bar to connect the 2 sides to give it strength, gusseted on all sides. can send pics if you need it.  the steering shaft is about 2 inches short, needed to cut and extend.  I had a stand under the engine, don t want it to crush my fingers.

to keep the rust out, I took a rattle can paint, out an wd40 sprayer with a straw on it and sprayed all the insides of the rails.  plenty of holles to doi on

the rad cradle is too low, put a 1.5 inch square tubing side to side.  also llined up with the original mounts with a plumb bob. 

measure everything twice.  the diff is at a crooked angle, need to work on that later, mine not done yet.
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2009, 04:56:38 PM »
I will take some with my phone and post them! Prob won't be till tomorrow or tues!
89 Sidekick. 33's.  Lincoln Locker,4.24 T Case, 5.13 gears. Warn M8000 winch.
96 Tracker. 39.5's Locked 44's front and rear, 6.5 t case, 4.10 gears.

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Re: project not yet named
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2009, 05:41:46 PM »
this now drives straighter down the road then before
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2009, 05:04:53 PM »
that looks exactly what I'm looking for, do you have any clearer and larger pics you can send?

thanks
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Here are some more pics! Hope they help! Any questions just ask!
89 Sidekick. 33's.  Lincoln Locker,4.24 T Case, 5.13 gears. Warn M8000 winch.
96 Tracker. 39.5's Locked 44's front and rear, 6.5 t case, 4.10 gears.

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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2009, 11:24:21 AM »
I did the "Chop and Drop" 6 year ago.  I only dropped it 3" but I also did the rear (I also have the 3" Calimini sup. lift). 

I'd do it again in a heart beat!  I had a 3" body lift on it and didn't like it.  So, I cut out the center section on the Rt side first, while leaving everything else attached.  I then removed the lift blocks, cut the front and rear parts of frame to fit in the new position, bolted the frame to the body and welded it back into place.  Did the same for the other side.

Raised the motor by welding two 1x2x3" blocks together, buying bolts 3" longer and bolting the motor down.  Also Raised the radiator and gas tank.

This is all very simplified but I was able to to it all by myself.  The frame only took me a weekend to do and the rest the remainder of the week.

I run 32's and have not been high centered more that once in 6 years, and that was my own fault, trying to take it too easy.
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