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have you seen this electric supercharger?

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Offline lokomonkey

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have you seen this electric supercharger?
« on: August 20, 2004, 07:17:38 AM »
ther is a guy in EBAY selling this "electric superchargers" /turbo, things any body have any experience with those??
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Re: have you seen this electric supercharger?
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2004, 08:00:46 AM »
The one that was featured in the Street performance mag will work. It draws almost as much juice as a damn whinch.
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Re: have you seen this electric supercharger?
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2004, 08:13:20 AM »
I think I read about this.  They have a huge hunger for power, and you have to mount additional batteries.  And I remember reading that they give you boost is "pulses" or "bursts" as opposed to steady, linear power delivery you would expect from a supercharger.
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Re: have you seen this electric supercharger?
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2004, 08:16:38 AM »
what kind of batteries? so is just like an extra kick? do you know how can you hold those bursts for?
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Re: have you seen this electric supercharger?
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2004, 08:46:12 AM »
Here is some of the FAQ section on  http://www.boosthead.com However, the short answer is the "bursts last for 10 seconds and you can do about 40 in a day.  At that rate the device will last 24 years or something incredibly long like that.  I bet if you just boosted the shit out of the machine all day, it would still outlast your Suzuki.  

Why get an ESC-400â„¢ when a Nitrous kit costs $600?

Sure, a base Nitrous kit costs $600, but the juice isn't free! Many customers with Nitrous go through 1-10 bottles/month, and at $30 to $45 per bottle, that's from $1000 to $5000 a year just in refills. We know serious drag racers who use a bottle on every other run, blowing $10K+ annually! In contrast, our ESC-400â„¢ recharges in a matter of minutes at zero additional cost.

Why should I get an ESCâ„¢ when there are already production turbo/supercharger kits for my car?

We understand that the ESC-400â„¢ is not for everyone. For vehicles with a readily available, high quality turbo or supercharger kit the ESC may not be the most practical choice. But for cars with no other kits available, the instant boost and refill-free power makes our ESC-400â„¢ Electric Supercharger an excellent alternative to Nitrous or custom turbo/SC kits. A complete system is far easier to install and can be put together for less.

Why only 405 CFM |removethispart|@ 5 PSI?

Few people realize that a Chevy 350 V8 turning 5000 RPM only uses 410 CFM. The simple rules are 120CFM for a 100 cid engine |removethispart|@ 5000 rpm. So an ESC-400 wont work on a V8, but it would support a 2.0 turning 8000 RPM |removethispart|@ 5 psi. We do have larger units for larger engines. The ESC-550 will support a 4.0 engine at 5 psi, and the ESC-750 will support a 350 V8 |removethispart|@ 5 psi.

How long will the ESCâ„¢ blower last?

The ESC has an expected lifespan of 24 years running forty 10-second runs per day (400 seconds per day).

What type of battery should I use for the ESCâ„¢?

Battery technology has come so far that a standard car battery can now be replaced by a 13lb 3" X 6" battery with similar short-term cranking amps. Several BatCap 800's, Hawker/Odyssey or Stinger 1700 are the best units, in our opinion. The stock battery will be replaced by a high output battery, and the additional batteries will supply the higher voltage necessary to run the ESC.

What about Bat-Caps? What are they?

Bat-Caps (capacitor hybrids) weigh 1/10th of a lead acid battery, give more current for a short burst, and recharge just as fast as they discharge. They are extremely light, but also extremely expensive, and will probably only be suitable for racing applications. Check out www.batcap.net for more info.

How will the ESCâ„¢ work with new production vehicles?

New cars can definitely benefit from the ESC, as the latest electrical systems usually have a higher capacity alternator available to recharge the batteries. Also, most modern fuel systems and ignitions work well with the ESC at full throttle.

Will the new 42 volt systems on production cars work with the ESC-400â„¢?

The 42V standard for automobiles starting in 2006 will make electric supercharging the wave of the future. Currect draw is reduced as voltage increases, so the higher the voltage, the more power available.

Will the ESC work on my Hybrid vehicle? Honda Civic Hybrid, Honda Insight, Toyota Prius, etc.

Yes, the ESC would be excellent in a hybrid vehicle. Most hybrids use small underpowered engines, and already have the battery power and capacity for operation of the ESC. We can use motors specifically wound for the higher voltage of a hybrid--usually 100-140VDC. This will allow for extremely efficient power to the ESC motors, as current amp draw would be very low. Please contact us for specifics.

Why is electric better than a turbo or supercharger?

This supercharger takes absolutely no power from your engine when you run it. That means it is non-parasitic. A turbo, while very efficient, creates backpressure and higher exhaust temperatures thus causing additional stress on most engines. A belt driven supercharger used engine power to turn it. The ESC uses a seperate battery pack. You charge the batteries while you are cruising, or plug into a regular battery charger when you get home.

How long does it take to recharge the system?

If an upgraded alternator is added--like a 200+ amp unit--then recharging can take place in 6-10 minutes for each 1/4 mile run. In the future battery-capacitor hybrids will recharge in a minute or two of driving. Once the batcaps are down to a reasonable cost they can recharge according to your alternator's capacity.

Why is the ESC-400â„¢ limited to only 15-second bursts?

There is only a specific amount of stored energy available from batteries. If you turned the ESC on and ran it to see what happened, the batteries would drain quickly. You would have boost for a minute or so, but then the batteries would be completely dead. The real question is, how long do you need to run? 10 to 15 second bursts is more than enough time for drag racing and responsible daily-drivers.
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Re: have you seen this electric supercharger?
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2004, 10:35:43 AM »
Ok, to make more power you must not only increase the air charge ,but fuel too. Where does it say a fuel management system is included?
It's all bullshit, if your only going for a little more power for short term nitrous is the way.
Those other kits have nothing but a boat bilge pump put into the air intake hose,
save your money and put a couple of those racing stickers on your rig,there good for 20H.P.
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Re: have you seen this electric supercharger?
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2004, 08:23:35 PM »
hey thank you  guys ;) I'm not good at all with mech/tech cars knowledge, so once again, Im relly glad I found this web site. and thanks for putting up with my ignorance....... :-[
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Re: have you seen this electric supercharger?
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2004, 03:28:27 AM »
Electric Superchargers  :P
Get a turbo, no batteries required  ;D

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