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GV/XL-7 lift, WE NEED HELP!!!!!!
« on: July 16, 2004, 03:17:10 PM »
I own an '01 GV and I want a lift for it, but I am very disapointed in the dismal choices out there.  Only Calmini makes a suspension lift for GV and XL-7 and it is only 2.5".  This wouldn't be so bad if somebody made a body lift, but nobody does.  







I would like to see a suspension only lift that places the axle and steering rack under the cross member and lifts the rest of the truck maybe 6" or so.  







Or perhaps you have a better idea of what a lift for a GV/XL-7 should be like.







Anybody interested in this kind of lift or with a better idea for a lift for GV/XL-7's please post here.  Perhaps if enough of us post and we can all get behind one good idea, somebody will build one for us.



Can he say that here
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Re: GV/XL-7 lift, WE NEED HELP!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2004, 04:08:44 PM »
The problem you'll have is the amount of R&D expense vs the 'profit' of the sale on it. I know the Tracker and the Vitara are duplicates in the design, but still how many owners of these are willing to change the suspension?

I know that there are other manu's, ie Jeep, which develop a vehicle, and before it's actually available for the public, some aftermarket company has developed something for it. It's all about numbers.

Take it upon yourself to get one design and built for your vehicle and you'll see all about those numbers.

As for lifting enough for 6", I wonder what size tire you are going to run? Those wheelwells only handle the 225/70-16 just fine, anything bigger, you'll need more space at the bottom of the wheelwells. You'll be modifying the overall looks of the -7 with trimming of the flares, then relocating the floor some so that you can turn with large tires, etc.
However, don't forget, there is no support in the driveline also. No gear ratios other than factory (5.13, 4.30), and no lockers, manual or automatic. Then there is the no-joint rear ds issue.

As for what others are doing to their -7's, take a look at
http://community.webshots.com/album/124974744wYftjp. These pics came from a site for Norway, Iceland, something like that, months ago. I don't have that link, sorry.

If you are interested in the design of such a lift, Mikerpm4x4 (on the Ultimate Adventure trailride) is one that has done this on a Tracker (search for Tracker on 37's and article archive for more info), there is some guy in NC here with a Sidekick 4dr (can't remember id) which has done this and he's still working out the steering issues, there was a manu'r (Pro-Comp-no longer for sale) whose lift included lower control arm drop brackets (and these come up for sale here or Ebay about every blue moon), and probably more.

About what you can do today is the Calmini, coil spacers, or go custom. Nobody has done a rack and pinion swap to a steering box so that would be a good start. Then either go custom IFS or straight axle. Again, it'll depend on tire size. Don't forget that larger tires reduce the performance of your truck. Gear swaps brings it back. So if you have a manual trans (comes with the 4.3 rear diff gears), you could swap in the 5.13's from an auto.

I'm still having trouble getting the front coils to collapse for the spacer. I've tried for the 3rd time now and I'm getting pissed at it. Now I'm calling about the adjustable coil spacers for Jeeps, Hondas, etc. Hopefully the specs will work with the bounce stop design of the -7.
Lenexa, KS

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Re: GV/XL-7 lift, WE NEED HELP!!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2004, 04:10:58 PM »
Oops, forgot, there is a XL-7 forum now on Zukiworld. It's unde the Discussion Forum listing, towards the bottom and it'll be there.
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Re: GV/XL-7 lift, WE NEED HELP!!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2004, 07:05:09 PM »
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However, don't forget, there is no support in the driveline also. No gear ratios other than factory (5.13, 4.30), and no lockers, manual or automatic.


Won't the 5.83 axle gears and the 4.24 or 4.4 t-case gears from a trackick work on GV, XL-7?
Can he say that here
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Guardrail

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Re: GV/XL-7 lift, WE NEED HELP!!!!!!
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2004, 12:29:36 AM »
Won't the 5.83 axle gears and the 4.24 or 4.4 t-case gears from a trackick work on GV, XL-7?

They'll work on the GV but not the XL-7 due the rear diff being a different size that's also why you can only put lockers in the GV.  Lower t-case gears will only fit the auto GV as the manual has a different length shaft.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2004, 12:30:15 AM by cj »

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Re: GV/XL-7 lift, WE NEED HELP!!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2004, 02:48:47 AM »
You can always go SAS ;D
95 2dr Geo Tracker with Calmini 6"inch combo lift, 32'inch BFGs M/Tlocked and loaded--D.D is my 06 Racy RED Aerio SX AWD

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Re: GV/XL-7 lift, WE NEED HELP!!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2004, 10:49:00 AM »
 Hey!! Get out of my head! ;D
97 Sport
265/70-16s
2" lift
2.0 swap
I know...Pretty boring... FOR NOW...

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Re: GV/XL-7 lift, WE NEED HELP!!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2004, 12:07:05 PM »
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Hey!! Get out of my head! ;D

And into my car




Sorry for the song quote. It was on VH-1 Dumbest p/u lines ;D :) ;D :)
« Last Edit: July 17, 2004, 12:07:53 PM by trickker »
95 2dr Geo Tracker with Calmini 6"inch combo lift, 32'inch BFGs M/Tlocked and loaded--D.D is my 06 Racy RED Aerio SX AWD

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Re: GV/XL-7 lift, WE NEED HELP!!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2004, 02:20:46 PM »
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Won't the 5.83 axle gears and the 4.24 or 4.4 t-case gears from a trackick work on GV, XL-7?







 Lower t-case gears will only fit the auto GV as the manual has a different length shaft.







I have the 2.0 four cylinder with the manual, will they work in that?
Can he say that here
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Re: GV/XL-7 lift, WE NEED HELP!!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2004, 04:36:52 PM »
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You can always go SAS ;D


The 3rd generation model, Vitara, has a rack and pinion steering setup. So the SAS will also consist of the adaptation of a steering box to the frame as well as the steering shaft.
Lenexa, KS