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Offline 1HZ

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Re: Sj413 Questions about modding
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2010, 11:04:05 PM »
Will my leavers need modifactaions for a 2 in body lift?

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Re: Sj413 Questions about modding
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2010, 01:35:34 PM »
For a 2" body lift, I do not believe so.  Most of the kits do not come with them.  You can check out Sky Manufacturing's, they have instructions on the site:

http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/new/detaproduct.php?id=105
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Re: Sj413 Questions about modding
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2010, 02:10:37 AM »
More questions >:D
Im puting some 2in lifted springs next weekend and was thinking about moveing the axle forwerd about a inch, Easy? Yes? No? How??
And what about fiddle breaks to stop one wheel to get traction to the other wheel?
And does calamini make a mini spool?
haha thanks.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2010, 03:48:51 PM by 1HZ »

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Re: Sj413 Questions about modding
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2010, 10:38:32 PM »
Trail Tough makes a mini spool, but don't put it on a rig you drive down the road on a regular basis with.  Trail rig only.

For sliding the front axle forward you want to do a RUF conversion, or rear springs up front.  Since you are putting lift springs on then I wouldn't bother.  :D

Your thinking of cutting brakes.  I would put a locker in back instead.
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Offline 1HZ

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Re: Sj413 Questions about modding
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2010, 01:16:29 AM »
Drone are you the only person on this website? ;)
Went for a drive today and the thing is wicked it can go almost anywhere.
Once i get new springs im thinking spool or welded in rear (rear has no weight at all so auto lokka would be harsh) and a auto lokka in the front.
sound good?
And this is definitely a trail/bush rig.
For a RUF can the springs just bolt stright on or does the shackels need lenghtend or modified? Or will i need to move the mounts?
Peace.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2010, 01:20:03 AM by 1HZ »

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Re: Sj413 Questions about modding
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2010, 05:17:13 AM »
Fiddle brakes are pretty harsh on the cables, they work OK on very light trials cars but most people who have tried them on Zuks have found that the handbrake cables stretch after a very short time.
You can move the axle forward by redrilling the spring pack or modifying the clamp plate, if you do go RUF then you will need longer shackles or relocated front mounts.
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Offline 1HZ

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Re: Sj413 Questions about modding
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2010, 01:19:21 AM »
What do you guys think about my lokka idea?
If i did a RUF with longer shackles and put new 2in lifted springs in the rear would it be level and would the flex be better than normal 2in lifted springs in the front?
(at the moment there is no flex at all there is a wheel constantly off the ground.)




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Re: Sj413 Questions about modding
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2010, 09:40:00 AM »
You shouldn't need to lift the rear to match if you do the RUF, but remember to pull out the overload spring or your ride will be to harsh.

Flex is much better, especially if you go with a folding shackle in the front.  You will need to remount your shocks and should pick up some new brake lines.  I put on brake lines from the front of a Geo Tracker/Suzuki Sidekick on to soak up the extra travel.

On a side note, cutting/fiddle brakes and spools don't work together.  I've had a brake go out on the drivers side in the back and just pinched the line, the other brake stopped me just fine for the rest of the competition.
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Re: Sj413 Questions about modding
« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2010, 12:56:12 AM »
cant get a spool so will have to get out the welder :o
anyone got any pics of how to weld it?

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Offline 1HZ

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Re: Sj413 Questions about modding
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2010, 11:44:34 PM »
Links to welded diffs?
whats different between welding the carryer up or this? http://forum.difflock.com/viewtopic.php?t=27773
how does this work whats better whats stronger?
« Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 01:50:17 AM by 1HZ »

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Re: Sj413 Questions about modding
« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2010, 12:07:43 PM »
The idea behind the Fozzy locker is that it will move a bit.  Like all things, some people like them and others don't.  Myself, I like the security if knowing I have a cast piece of metal in there and not having to worry about welds breaking and getting metal bits in my gears.
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Re: Sj413 Questions about modding
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2010, 03:27:02 AM »
Quick Anser needed guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I picked up these
http://www.4wdstuff.co.nz/files/suzukifrontsprings.jpg
And
http://www.4wdstuff.co.nz/files/suzukirearsprings.jpg
Tryed putting the front in today and they where lower than stock??????? WTF
They just bent under the weight
The eyes on the front springs are under the the springs like the ones in the pics the stock ones are on top ??????????
i put the rear in the front and they where too long
HELP PLEASE
I was told they Work in LWB But i dont know?

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Re: Sj413 Questions about modding
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2010, 04:45:42 AM »
There shouldn't be an problems with the front, contact the supplier it sounds like they messed up. The rear springs on a LWB are slightly longer than on the SWB but the SWB springs usually fit.
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Offline 1HZ

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Re: Sj413 Questions about modding
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2010, 12:30:26 AM »
I put the lifted springs in the rear and it did nothing  :)
then put some leaves from the old rear pack into the old front pack  ;)
It worked a treat  8)
now getting ready to weld my rear axle
it may sound stupid but do i need shocks in the front i got mean flex without them
« Last Edit: May 29, 2010, 03:49:39 AM by 1HZ »

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Re: Sj413 Questions about modding
« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2010, 02:02:52 PM »
Strictly speaking they are not shock absorbers but dampers, they stop the springs from bouncing out of control so you will need them.
2000 Vitara 1.6, 3+3 Lift, 33"MTs, 5:83s, LWB brakes, Winch, Snorkel, Safari Rack
1986 SJ413K PickUp, 1.6L conversion.

OBD1 - Full diagnostics on a PC/Laptop: http://www.rhinopower.org