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Offline Zuki-Girl

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Trouble with a 98 Tracker
« on: April 11, 2010, 03:13:09 PM »
Ok have a strange problem with my friends 98 Tracker. It's a 1.6 16 valve,it will start and idle with no problem. Go to put it in drive it acts like it wants to die. You can't rev it at idle either. Checked timing and it's on the button. New plugs,wires,cap and rotor. Origional problem was no power while driving,changed the above and now it won't move under power. Any ideas?
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Offline BIGTSV

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Re: Trouble with a 98 Tracker
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2010, 06:18:06 PM »
Have you pulled the tube from the TB to the airbox and made sure it does not have any cracks in it?
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Re: Trouble with a 98 Tracker
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2010, 06:26:44 PM »
tps in adjustmet?    clogged fuel filter?   any other recent service done?
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Re: Trouble with a 98 Tracker
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2010, 07:06:45 PM »
had the tube off wasn't actually looking for any cracks,but I'll check in the morning. not sure how long it's been since filter was changed,I'll try that tomorrow also.
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Re: Trouble with a 98 Tracker
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2010, 08:42:42 PM »
Slipped timing belt? that would really throw a curve to it.
How many miles on it?

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Re: Trouble with a 98 Tracker
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2010, 04:44:59 AM »
Not sure on the mileage as it's a Jasper engine that was in it when she bought it. It did have one code showing multiple engine missfires (Acton OBD II reader). So I'll be checking the timing belt today as well as changeing the fuel filter.
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Re: Trouble with a 98 Tracker
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2010, 06:45:53 AM »
Since this problem showed up after you changed some parts, I would bet it is either an installation or new part issue.

Make sure the spark plug wires are connected correctly (on the right plugs) and that they are pushed onto the plugs and cap good.  When you push them on the plugs, they will make a "snap" sound when they seat.
It is possible to put some rotors on in any of the 3 positions....but if it is installed in either of the 2 wrong positions, I don't believe you can get the engine to even run, without turning the distributor to adjust the "timing".
You did gap the spark plugs, before you installed them, right?  There is no such thing as "pre gapped" spark plugs.  What kind of plugs did you install?  NGKs or Nippon Densos are the ones that you should use (the spark plug number should be on the label on the underside of the hood).
A fuel filter change won't hurt.

It could also be that you got a bad part.  I have never had one...but I have heard a few people that have had bad parts right out of the box.
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Re: Trouble with a 98 Tracker
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2010, 07:52:14 AM »
It had a running poorly problem before changeing anything. I'm running Autolite plugs in it,just like my 95 sidekick and 88 Sammi.
They are gapped at .040 per Autolite's instructions. Fuel Filter looks to be origional,pulling it now.
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Re: Trouble with a 98 Tracker
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2010, 07:59:09 AM »
Quote from: Zuki-Girl on April 12, 2010, 07:52:14 AM
It had a running poorly problem before changeing anything. I'm running Autolite plugs in it,just like my 95 sidekick and 88 Sammi.
They are gapped at .040 per Autolite's instructions. Fuel Filter looks to be origional,pulling it now.

Yes, I know it was running poorly before you changed anything, but at least it was running/driving.  Now it won't move under its own power....so now it is running even worse, right?  That is why I am thinking it has something to do with the new parts or the new parts install.
.040 doesn't sound right for the gap.  Look at the sticker on the underside of the hood, it should tell you what the gap should be.
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Re: Trouble with a 98 Tracker
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2010, 08:33:58 AM »
Ya, that was my thought, should be closer to .028-.030 gap.
This could be the cause of the random misfires

The plugs called for are NGK BKR-6E, at least in my older book

The only plugs I have used that did come pre gapped are Bosch, not
that the gap is correct for the application but are all the same plug to
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Re: Trouble with a 98 Tracker
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2010, 08:38:54 AM »
Quote from: wildgoody on April 12, 2010, 08:33:58 AM
Ya, that was my thought, should be closer to .028-.030 gap.
This could be the cause of the random misfires

Yep, me too.
I have had old plugs cause misfires (from the gap opening up too much).  I bought a trackick once and it would sometime miss.  I pulled the plugs and they were worn enough that the gap was close to .050  :o  I regapped the plugs and it ran great after that.
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Re: Trouble with a 98 Tracker
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2010, 10:27:35 AM »
ok changed out fuel filter,re gapped plugs to .029,checked wires for proper posts. It starts and idles beautiful,will move Tracker at"idle" speed only. As soon as you go to step on skinny pedal it wants to die.
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Re: Trouble with a 98 Tracker
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2010, 12:55:14 PM »
Pulled timing cover and belt is fine and on the mark both top and bottom. Starts better than ever and idles beautiful,just no power at skinny pedal.
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Re: Trouble with a 98 Tracker
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2010, 01:26:46 PM »
Sounds like a fuel starvation issue, checked the fuel pump pressure?
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Re: Trouble with a 98 Tracker
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2010, 02:39:59 PM »
Quote from: bentparts on April 12, 2010, 01:26:46 PM
Sounds like a fuel starvation issue, checked the fuel pump pressure?

Sure sounds like a possibility.  I have ran across a weak fuel pump before....it idles all day long, but give it any gas and it coughs, spits, sputters and won't move under its own power.
But what I find odd is, they said it at least ran and drove (albeit crappy) before they put on new plugs, wires, cap, and rotor....and they say it won't even move under its own power now....so that makes me think either installation issue with one of the new parts, or a bad part.

zuki-girl....have you checked for error codes, since you swapped the new parts on?
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