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Offline Urban_offroad

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More Power...
« on: May 25, 2005, 11:33:28 AM »
Hey boys and Girls,

I'm just wondering where is everyone finding all the power out of the 8V motor to run 33" tires and bigger. I'm running 31's right now with Basically stock motor and I have crappy power up the hills. I have a header on there right now and it's better then before.. but still. I can get a cam for the motor, but here in Vancouver BC we have a stupid cash grab called aircare.. and I've heard a few people that had the cam not pass and was just a hasle...

I'm thinking I might want to go up in tire size soon.. and lock it up in the read but I don't want to crawl on the highway to the trails.. What does everyone use for powerplant????

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Offline ed oorklep

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Re: More Power...
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2005, 12:03:37 PM »
Okay, here I go, I still have everything stock (for now) and have a 1.6 8V motor, as long as the land is flat (like over here) there ain't no problem. So the best option without regearing the tracker would be moving. But, I'd say (b'cause you are in the US) get you a set of diff gears and maybe some lower t-case gears and your set. But over here that's too expensive so I'll go with auto diff's and a sammy t-case (about the same as stock in High gear).
Good luck with finding more power, there is some reserve left in the 8v but not enough to make 33" tyres feel like stock  ;)
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Re: More Power...
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2005, 02:20:24 PM »
5.83 gears
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Re: More Power...
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2005, 02:41:10 PM »
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5.83 gears


and possibly snap axels? ...

urban, when you say "hillls" are you talking trails or hwy?
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Re: More Power...
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2005, 03:57:41 PM »
Not knowing what the rest of yur engine is like it's hard to suggest. For the emissions  gears are probly the route to go as they won't effect a sniffer test. I think I would try to find out what the standards are for the aircare test before writing off enigine mods.

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Re: More Power...
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2005, 05:27:56 PM »
I drive a 1.3L on vancouver island.... dont you people with 1.6L's start complainin bout power!! ::)   just drive it like a race car, rpm's are your friend ;D
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Re: More Power...
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2005, 06:24:52 PM »
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  just drive it like a race car, rpm's are your friend ;D

hahahaha yup, i drive up the malahat at least 2 times a week, and i love them higher rpms, i just fly up there lol
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Offline cj

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Re: More Power...
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2005, 06:26:04 PM »
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5.83 gears


If you can find find one for the rear I want it  ;D
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Offline Urban_offroad

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Re: More Power...
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2005, 04:55:49 AM »
I'm on the paved roads more the offroad.. and getting to the camping and play areas are SSSSLLLLOOOOWWW... Loaded with all my gear and tires and camping gear. So gears are good anyone have anything?? And how much am I looknig at..
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Offline SnoFalls

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Re: More Power...
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2005, 05:09:20 AM »
for the hwy, you'll want gears.

My auto has 5.12's swapped in (and wears 31's), and it tops out around 55mph on hills for me.

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Re: More Power...
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2005, 05:28:04 AM »
It may seem expensive, but if I had to do it over again I'd get my case redone at OTT so that you could bolt a 2nd T-case on to it (Sami).  With the sami reduction built into the case you can run stock gears in your axils.  (the 5.83's are hard to come by).  Plus the extra T-case gears, a combo of 4:1 plus.

R&P
$300
$300

Bearing set
$139

4.24:1 Gears
$975

Total:  $1714 + Sami case

OTT:  Kicker 1 = $500

So that's a savings of $1214 and if you ever have R&P problems (cj) no problem finding a replacement.  

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Re: More Power...
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2005, 05:44:57 AM »
If I was going to do it again I think I'd go the OTT route as well instead of 5:83s.
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Offline Urban_offroad

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Re: More Power...
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2005, 10:43:32 AM »
Thanks guys.. that gives me something to think about.. an kind of makes up my mind for now... CAN'T AFFORD IT = LEAVE IT... HAHAHAH
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Offline mbmarkyb

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Re: More Power...
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2005, 11:10:29 AM »
i run 33s on stock high rang , low box is 4:24 and great , i tow my caravan and its a killer. not to bad on its own, i made a big air intake with the injection air box calmini filter and now run a full jan speed exhuast , it helps but isnt great,

Next up is going to be a hawk cam im hopping to get some increase , anyone run Hawk is it worth it or should i just get an 1800 and spend the cash on converting the dizzy and a nice SU carb?
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Re: More Power...
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2005, 02:24:42 PM »
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for the hwy, you'll want gears.

My auto has 5.12's swapped in (and wears 31's), and it tops out around 55mph on hills for me.




Geez here I thought I was doing bad holding 60mph on steepish hills in 5th...maybe I should just leave it as it is...but still play with the cam timing to move the power curve up a bit ;)
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