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Offline jow003

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carb tuning
« on: September 29, 2010, 12:47:25 PM »
i dont know what to do.

stock samurai carb, when i go down a bump road it feels like it gets flooded, never had the prob at sea level but now that im at ~7000ft it happens. 

anyone dealt with this or know how i can fix it?

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Offline Zuki-Girl

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Re: carb tuning
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2010, 01:00:28 PM »
TBI will fix it. I used a 1.6 valve TBI and had a harnes made from a complete 4 piece unit to a stand alone for my 88. Works great.

Re: carb tuning
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2010, 01:11:03 PM »
Have u found the little air adjustment on the right side of the carb? If adjusted rite these little carbs are great and wiill perform better than most Webbers.

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Offline jow003

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Re: carb tuning
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2010, 05:24:54 AM »
whats a TBI?  before i put all my stuff on this didnt happen and now on the same trail its doin this.  Ill try turning that air adjustment
if a bigger hammer, bigger tires or more gas doesn't help... your doing it wrong.

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RUF conversion-Trail Tough
1" shackles
33x1250x15 MTZs
15x8- DC-2s

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Offline Zuki-Girl

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Re: carb tuning
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2010, 07:08:42 AM »
TBI : Throttle Body Injection

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Offline jow003

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Re: carb tuning
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2010, 08:26:18 AM »
I have also been told that if i play with the float that could fix it...
if a bigger hammer, bigger tires or more gas doesn't help... your doing it wrong.

BUY MY STUFF!! pm for details

87 Samurai...
5" SPOA/OTT -RRO
1.5" leaf springs-OME
RUF conversion-Trail Tough
1" shackles
33x1250x15 MTZs
15x8- DC-2s

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Offline Zuki-Girl

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Re: carb tuning
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2010, 08:33:18 AM »
True, I might just be getting old or lazy,but to me start and drive with not having having to worry about angles, float settings,choke sticking. Is much more enjoyable than having flooding issues and such. But that's my opinion.

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Offline jow003

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Re: carb tuning
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2010, 08:36:17 AM »
I appreciate it.  Where should i look to get the harness for that TBI you have?  how much would you want for it?
if a bigger hammer, bigger tires or more gas doesn't help... your doing it wrong.

BUY MY STUFF!! pm for details

87 Samurai...
5" SPOA/OTT -RRO
1.5" leaf springs-OME
RUF conversion-Trail Tough
1" shackles
33x1250x15 MTZs
15x8- DC-2s

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Offline bentparts

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Re: carb tuning
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2010, 06:20:44 PM »
No reason your carb shouldn't work at altitude. When you say " put all my stuff on " what exactly do you mean? Did you mess with anything electrical? It does sound to me like you've got a float bowl either starving or flooding, check the float level,needle and seat.
 Did you obtain this vehicle from a high altitude part of the country? You may just need to re-jet your carb, or do as the others have suggested and adjust your float and idle air mixture. Messing around with carbs  isn't rocket science, there's a method to tuning. Once you get the correct method it applies to most normally asperated, carb'd engines engines.
I have to agree with Zuki Girl on this one though. It's probably gonna be easier, and have much better all around results by switching to a Throttle Body Fuel Injection off any old Trackick 8 valve.  Grab the intake and everything from there up including the wiring harness and ecu.
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Offline jow003

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Re: carb tuning
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2010, 09:09:44 AM »
No reason your carb shouldn't work at altitude. When you say " put all my stuff on " what exactly do you mean? Did you mess with anything electrical? It does sound to me like you've got a float bowl either starving or flooding, check the float level,needle and seat.
 Did you obtain this vehicle from a high altitude part of the country? You may just need to re-jet your carb, or do as the others have suggested and adjust your float and idle air mixture. Messing around with carbs  isn't rocket science, there's a method to tuning. Once you get the correct method it applies to most normally asperated, carb'd engines engines.
I have to agree with Zuki Girl on this one though. It's probably gonna be easier, and have much better all around results by switching to a Throttle Body Fuel Injection off any old Trackick 8 valve.  Grab the intake and everything from there up including the wiring harness and ecu.

got vehicle from Dallas 7 ish years ago, never had a prob till now.  happened last night on my way home from work, sat in front of a restaurants deck full of ppl featherin the gas and backfiring for 5 min... ya, im smooth haha :-\
if a bigger hammer, bigger tires or more gas doesn't help... your doing it wrong.

BUY MY STUFF!! pm for details

87 Samurai...
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1.5" leaf springs-OME
RUF conversion-Trail Tough
1" shackles
33x1250x15 MTZs
15x8- DC-2s

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Offline jow003

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Re: carb tuning
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2010, 11:09:18 AM »
would a fuel pump solve this problem?
if a bigger hammer, bigger tires or more gas doesn't help... your doing it wrong.

BUY MY STUFF!! pm for details

87 Samurai...
5" SPOA/OTT -RRO
1.5" leaf springs-OME
RUF conversion-Trail Tough
1" shackles
33x1250x15 MTZs
15x8- DC-2s

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Offline bentparts

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Re: carb tuning
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2010, 08:04:14 PM »
You need to check the fuel pressure before you start replacing parts. Did you check your float ?
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Offline jow003

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Re: carb tuning
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2010, 03:05:28 PM »
havent checked the float.  kinda paranoid if i start takin stuff off it wont go back on.  and apparantly noone in any of my circles around here know anything about carbs enough to watch over my shoulder and tell me if im doin right
if a bigger hammer, bigger tires or more gas doesn't help... your doing it wrong.

BUY MY STUFF!! pm for details

87 Samurai...
5" SPOA/OTT -RRO
1.5" leaf springs-OME
RUF conversion-Trail Tough
1" shackles
33x1250x15 MTZs
15x8- DC-2s

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Offline jow003

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Re: carb tuning
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2010, 08:18:43 AM »
so over the weekend i finally got to take a look at my chilton book and my rig, first off, that book sucks!! i had no idea what i was lookin at.  how do i get to the float?  how do i know if its bad or needs to be replaced?
if a bigger hammer, bigger tires or more gas doesn't help... your doing it wrong.

BUY MY STUFF!! pm for details

87 Samurai...
5" SPOA/OTT -RRO
1.5" leaf springs-OME
RUF conversion-Trail Tough
1" shackles
33x1250x15 MTZs
15x8- DC-2s

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Offline rascott

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Re: carb tuning
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2010, 10:08:02 AM »
there should be a little window on the float bowl so you can see the fuel level.
also - there is an altitude switch that tells the computer to change the fuel mixture control valve function at high altitude.
the fsm has good trouble shoot/inspection of these items(my fsm is for a different model).
the carburetor is a real pia to take apart- look at everything else before taking it apart.
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