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Offline ramdodger

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matching numbers 86 sammy
« on: June 03, 2011, 07:32:14 PM »
Hey Folks!

I was wondering if the 6 digit serial number on a 1.3 engine should match any of the numbers on the vehicle VIN?

I am trying to figure out if I have the original power plant.   ???

Thanks!
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Re: matching numbers 86 sammy
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2011, 08:10:38 PM »
where are the numbers at ? I will go and look at mine.
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Re: matching numbers 86 sammy
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2011, 08:25:45 PM »
The VIN is on the left end of the dash and down on the left inside of the cab...where the non clutch riding foot should be. :)

The engine number is stamped on the left side of the block next to the trans.

I ask because wifey wants to rebuild original engine instead of using it as core on a long block. I checked to see if it was matching, and it does not that I can tell.

Yeah, its her ride. That I blew up. Thats another story. >:D
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Re: matching numbers 86 sammy
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2011, 09:43:34 PM »
Well I took a rag on the end of a stick and found them and they are not even close, the first three numbers start off with 111,
it is a Big block 1324 cc,  Wow.
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Re: matching numbers 86 sammy
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2011, 10:06:54 PM »
I will make the observation that there is no tie between the engine number and the VIN...

notice I didnt make an 'assumption'.  8)

Thanks for your help Mr Fuelish!
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Re: matching numbers 86 sammy
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2011, 10:10:50 PM »
no prob.
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Re: matching numbers 86 sammy
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2011, 01:25:19 AM »
The engine # may still be a matching #, it just doesn't co-ordinate with our VIN's

I'm sure someplace there is a listing with the engine serial #s that shows when
they were built, and that corresponds with the age and VIN of the trucklet

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Re: matching numbers 86 sammy
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2011, 11:23:14 PM »
the 1324cc is the displacement there is a stamped number i dont remember what side i will look in the morning
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Re: matching numbers 86 sammy
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2011, 09:34:55 AM »
I don't recall any of the numbers matching.  They probably wouldn't as the block was built by Aisin and not Suzuki.

I also would not rebuild a 1300cc engine.  I would rebuild a 1600cc 8-valve or find a good use one.  They give about the same 1600cc but the additional 25% more HP and torque makes the Samurai mucho street friendlier.
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Re: matching numbers 86 sammy
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2011, 01:04:01 PM »
Eric has gone with a high performance 1.3l in the past, seemed to like it:

http://zukiworld.com/month_060101/feature_reynolds_01.htm

SammyPro can help you build a 1.3l that will keep up with a 1.6 without having to perform the full swap. 

http://www.sammypro.com/

So it depends on what you think is easier.  :)
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Re: matching numbers 86 sammy
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2011, 01:13:18 PM »
You make it sound like swapping in a 1600cc is a big chore.  :laugh:

The 1300cc is a good engine, but it just doesn't have the power for highway use.  Especially if you have larger than stock tires.
If I was just planning on putting around a small town (below 50mph) and rarely see the highway, I would stay with the 1300cc. Otherwise, 1600cc  8)
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