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Offline Jluck

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2.7L v6 twin turbo!
« on: July 25, 2011, 11:21:16 PM »
I have had this idea bouncing around the peanut gallery for a while.....

How well would it work to run one turbo off each cylinder bank using different size compressor but like sized turbines? I wouldn't want some radical 90 psi set up just a smaller bottom end turbo for low power band range and a larger second to "pick up" and carry out the engines rpm range.

on paper it seems logical and very doable, but I have done no research or serious number crunching yet.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2011, 09:22:32 PM by Jluck »
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Re: 2.7L v6 twin turbo!
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2011, 11:32:37 PM »
A couple of 1.0L turbos would spool fast, even some from a
slightly bigger engine, like 1.5 or 1.6, but the point of twins
is to get a faster spool and more flow, so I'm not sure this
is the best way to go but it could be a lot of fun  >:D
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Re: 2.7L v6 twin turbo!
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2011, 11:36:42 PM »
I was thinking two singles to act as a compound staged setup. and it would just look plain sick!
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Re: 2.7L v6 twin turbo!
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2011, 06:47:45 AM »
I've got two words for you.... MON-STER

Check out the Monster's Pike peaks racers from previous years. His group has done a lot of work with twins on a 2.7 engine.

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Re: 2.7L v6 twin turbo!
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2011, 08:47:27 AM »
Ya, like 900 HP of work, that is a monster designed for Monster
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Re: 2.7L v6 twin turbo!
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2011, 09:01:08 AM »
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Re: 2.7L v6 twin turbo!
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2011, 10:27:36 AM »
I would personally run a smaller vnt off of each bank. Something like a vnt 15 or 18, should work really good on the 2.7. With the power numbers I think you would want, you would probably need to go bigger. With the variable nozzle, you could get away with it
Because of the faster spooling. If it were me I would look for a more practical power number, 500 HP or so!
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Re: 2.7L v6 twin turbo!
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2011, 10:40:21 AM »
I think sequential turbo's is what your talking about.

I remember some "twin turbo" Mazda RX-7's have a sequential setup?  One smaller chambered into a larger one for a wider range of response. 


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Re: 2.7L v6 twin turbo!
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2011, 12:12:45 PM »
like the first post says, I don't want some radical drag motor just a great performer through the whole powerband and yes I would like something to act as "sequential,compound,progressive or staged" just with one bank feeding each turbo. a symmetric design.

the 900 hp was just a joke. 3-400 would be great. reliability would be paramount.

I'm more curious if anybody has seen this system used.

>both turbos using same size turbine.
>one small compressor
>one medium to larger compressor.
>common BOV
>dual wastegates
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Re: 2.7L v6 twin turbo!
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2011, 02:33:27 PM »
OK, this is getting crazy now! :laugh: Maybe you should just chuck the whole Suzuki thing and go buy a full size v8 4x4!  >:D
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Re: 2.7L v6 twin turbo!
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2011, 02:45:25 PM »
Have you seen twin-charged engines? A supercharger that feeds a turbo (reduces lag on the turbo). I've seen a few street vehicles with this setup, but obviously nothing on a 2.7 Suzuki. It'd be pretty sweet, though.

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Re: 2.7L v6 twin turbo!
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2011, 04:08:39 PM »
Those system usually feed a supercharger with a turbo

I'm not sure how unequal turbos would respond to being
in a common manifold, I think it would cause a lag response
with the second turbo from pressure trying to escape out of the
larger turbine

Equal size twins would work together and still out perform a
larger single and still spool faster, you only want 5 PSI unless
you get forged low compression pistons 

This subject needs more research, but when in doubt,
look at what the racers have done
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Re: 2.7L v6 twin turbo!
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2011, 06:25:10 PM »
I would just use one turbo. A mid sized ball bearing turbo should be sufficient shouldn't it? Even if its not what about a twin scroll? with reliability being paramount why try being all scientific about it?
Tuning is going to become expensive getting all crazy like you'd like.

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This is what I would do if I was rich and had time. Try finding his 350z (i think) on the road, its modeled after a Cummings diesel set up i believe.

I two cents, twin scroll.

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Re: 2.7L v6 twin turbo!
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2011, 10:41:34 PM »
I would just use one turbo. A mid sized ball bearing turbo should be sufficient shouldn't it? Even if its not what about a twin scroll? with reliability being paramount why try being all scientific about it?
Tuning is going to become expensive getting all crazy like you'd like.


that wouldn't be twins then. ;)

>I think I can do it with factory engine management too. here's a photo example.
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Re: 2.7L v6 twin turbo!
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2011, 11:04:06 PM »
How hot that engine will look sitting
under the hood of a Sidekick  >:D

I now have turbo envy

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