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Offline Mike71

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lets talk- cooling fans
« on: March 22, 2004, 10:24:52 AM »
i have seen a few storys of people smashing down into a water hole and bending or breaking the fan.

i have also seen a few where the fan has torn up the radiator even with the flex fans

so what i was thinking is can i mount an electric fan that has an on off toggle switch in the cab so if i am going to go down through some water i can shut it off??

not going to do this anytime soon i am just reasearching and putting things on my ..need to buy list

i plan on saving all the money i need then paying for half of the stuff with a no interest credit card..so it shouldnt take that long

thanks for any info =)
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Re: lets talk- cooling fans
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2004, 11:36:21 AM »
if you dunk a electric fan in water too many times it will die.
   

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Offline jerryp58

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Re: lets talk- cooling fans
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2004, 11:38:23 AM »
Sounds like a good plan.

I've been thinking about doing the same except since I don't do much off roading I wasn't planning on a cutoff switch (I could just unplug the power to the thermostat switch if I was getting in deep water).

You'd need the fan (depth will be important - I think I only have about 3-1/4" tops on my '90 Tracker, and you don't want it to draw too many amps if you have the wimpy stock alternator like I have), a thermostat switch (preferrably adjustable), and I guess a toggle switch that you can run between the hot lead and the thermostat.

Hopefully someone who has done it will chime in and confirm or refute this info.
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Offline Mike71

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Re: lets talk- cooling fans
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2004, 12:31:02 PM »
well the stock alt isnt going to stay with me much longer lol since ill be running a winch and stuff ill need a bigger alt..so ill do the gm alt braket swap and run a 200amp alt


why would dunking the elec fan to many times mess it up? shouldnt they be water profed like the computer?
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Re: lets talk- cooling fans
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2004, 01:05:16 PM »
i don't think you could really water proof it with out really getting into builting everything.  all the heat the motor makes will melt plastic so i dunno.

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Offline Mike71

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Re: lets talk- cooling fans
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2004, 01:13:56 PM »
yah but shouldnt it come water proof? they make those things for 4x4s they should know atleased one brain child is going to get into water above the doors  ;D
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Re: lets talk- cooling fans
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2004, 01:29:36 PM »
i just got a flex-a-lite fan from 4wd.com and will be instaling it when i put my motor in in 2 weeks and will post here to let you know how it fits etc.  they also sell 'be-cool' fans (more $$), neither says anything about being (or not being) water proof.  but it will get wet in the rain right. :-/  for me it shouldnt be a problem though.  i too am going to get the gm alt bracket as i put the motor together.  what alt are you going to use that has 200 amp?  will it have the same size shaft for the pully?
o, the fan was the smallest one they had for $99.95 plus 30 for the switches etc.  the be cool ones are to big i think and are $199
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Offline Mike71

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Re: lets talk- cooling fans
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2004, 01:46:13 PM »
hey thanks for all that info..i havent really looked into the alts yet

i forgot though theres a place that will make alts for our engines..i may go that route if u want info i can get it
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Re: lets talk- cooling fans
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2004, 02:08:28 PM »
How much is the GM Alt bracket?
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Offline Mike71

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Re: lets talk- cooling fans
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2004, 02:33:25 PM »
the GM alt braket i saw was if i remember right 24.99? 29.99 plus shipping

i cant find the web site though so i am still looking
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Offline jerryp58

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Re: lets talk- cooling fans
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2004, 08:47:31 PM »
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the GM alt braket i saw was if i remember right 24.99? 29.99 plus shipping

i cant find the web site though so i am still looking


I'd like to see the Website for the alt bracket too.  Is there any down-side to running a higher amp alt?

BTW, I've seen some electric fans advertised on eBay (so take that for what it's worth) that say they're water-proof.

Pics of the alt install and the fan install would be great!
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Re: lets talk- cooling fans
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2004, 10:33:13 PM »
Kenlowe (a British make so I don't know if they're available over there) do electric fan conversions. They list heavy duty and waterproof as options. Pretty expensive over here though, maybe a lot cheaper in the US.
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Offline Bobzooki

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Re: lets talk- cooling fans
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2004, 11:48:43 PM »
That's odd.  Never had a problem with my Kick.

It has a plastic fan, and a liquid filled clutch.

When I splash it in the creek, it just spins at whatever speed it can, but never hit anything, or broke.  Not like you NEED a radiator fan, when the radiator's in the creek...
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Re: lets talk- cooling fans
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2004, 01:21:49 AM »
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 Not like you NEED a radiator fan, when the radiator's in the creek...


hahahah, I don't think Kick's are marine creatures!!  ;)
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Re: lets talk- cooling fans
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2004, 05:13:32 AM »
Not on a kick but bolth my sammies have electric fans. I have never had a problem with them being wet. One of them has been on for about 3 years no problem. As for cost, if youre willing to spend some time at a wrecking yard alot of newer cars have great fans. Look for front wheel drive cars,the newer the better. Also removing that fan and clutch will gain you a little high end horsey's, and your motor will spin up faster.