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Offline NY_SIDEKICKER

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DID YOU HERE ?
« on: March 22, 2004, 01:51:55 PM »
I WAS LISTENING TO THE RADIO TODAY WHEN THEY BROUGHT UP THE RELEASE OF THE NATIONAL INSURANCE INSTITUTE'S SAFEST CARS ...THEY LISTED  SEVERAL CARS & THEN IT WAS LIKE WHAT THE HECK ...THEY PUT DOWN THE NEW SUZUKI VERONA I THINK IT WAS FOR SAFETY ISSUES WITH THE AIR BAGS...NOT ONE OTHER NEGATIVE COMMENT ABOUT ANY OTHER CARS  ???  ???  ???  ???   ARE THEY PICKING ON SUZUKI AGAIN  :o  >:(  :-/
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Re: DID YOU HERE ?
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2004, 01:54:18 PM »
Not this war again
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Re: DID YOU HERE ?
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2004, 11:48:07 PM »
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THEY PUT DOWN THE NEW SUZUKI FERONA I THINK IT WAS FOR SAFETY ISSUES WITH THE AIR BAGS...NOT ONE OTHER NEGATIVE COMMENT ABOUT ANY OTHER CARS  ???  ???  ???  ???   ARE THEY PICKING ON SUZUKI AGAIN  :o  >:(  :-/


This time ASMC had it coming to them.  They messed up the wiring on the air bags so they didn't go off right, or at all.  Crash test dummy faces slamming into dashboards and steering wheels tends to garner bad reviews.  Thing is ASMC needed the Institute to find this out?!?!?!

Wow, I totally underestimated how poorlt built these Korean Zooks were going to be.  I mean, forget something like a nut or a seal that causes valve damage I can understand, but WIRING THE AIRBAGS WRONG?!!?!!?  There is no excuse for this QA/QC problem from a company that claims to have ISO certification.

Even if such a problem like this happened, it shouldn't have aken the Institute to find it out and usher in a complete recall.  How such a serious manufacturing error that could have resulted in death for it's occupants can occur in the first place is beyond belief.
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Re: DID YOU HERE ?
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2004, 12:52:47 AM »
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This time ASMC had it coming to them.

How such a serious manufacturing error that could have resulted in death for it's occupants can occur in the first place is beyond belief.


Yes, ASMC are idiots.  But wait a minute.  Remeber (1995) when we DIDN'T have air bags?  Air bags are a SECONDARY restraint system.  All these vehicles have a PRIMARY restraint system.  If you're not wearing your seat belts, you DESERVE the surprise of discovering that the air-bags don't work.  OK, if the dummies are getting their heads smashed with seat-belts ON, there are probably more serious structural issues with the vehicle.
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Re: DID YOU HERE ?
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2004, 08:29:59 AM »
what's worse?

the Samurai was built 100% by suzuki and the only thing bad about it was that if you drive it (a high centered 4x4) like a ferrrai it will flip.  well, no duh.

but suzuki was crucified for this one thing.

or is it worse that GM has turned Suzuki into it's corporate "bitch" and forced them to sell crappy built Daewoo's that not only ARE NOT 100% built by suzuki but again this time rightfully gives bad press for poor safety issues.

i think it's a shame that Suzuki must take the brunt and the heat for this lump of crap from Daewoo/GM.  this is a REAL safety issue (instead of the fake one brought up against the Samurai) and is not their fault.

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i forgot to add that what alot of news groups will forget to add....for the sake of sensationalism....is that Suzuki immediately fixed this problem and the car was retested as one of the safest mid-sizes, earning a 4 1/2 star crash rating.  from the 1 1/2 it got before the fix.
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Re: DID YOU HERE ?
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2004, 08:32:34 AM »
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 this is a REAL safety issue (instead of the fake one brought up against the Samurai) and is not their fault.


The Suzuki S is on the grille, so it's Suzuki's fault plain and simple.
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Re: DID YOU HERE ?
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2004, 08:33:18 AM »
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Yes, ASMC are idiots.  But wait a minute.  Remeber (1995) when we DIDN'T have air bags?  Air bags are a SECONDARY restraint system.  All these vehicles have a PRIMARY restraint system.  If you're not wearing your seat belts, you DESERVE the surprise of discovering that the air-bags don't work.  OK, if the dummies are getting their heads smashed with seat-belts ON, there are probably more serious structural issues with the vehicle.


Good question, but I believe the seatbelt is on. Ewwww....
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Re: DID YOU HERE ?
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2004, 09:56:40 AM »
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The Suzuki S is on the grille, so it's Suzuki's fault plain and simple.


SUZUKI is 20% owned by GM.  They are the corporate bitch.  SUZUKI doesn't make the Verona.  It's built by GM/Daewoo of Korea.

Now the Aerio (4-door sedan) which is an entirely SUZUKI design has gotten a bad rap here in Canada.  The back bumper was said to have no real purpose and that a rear end collision could prove to be rather dangerous for the occupants.

But there are tons of them rolling around.  I don't think this will affect the sales of the Verona or hurt SUZUKI in the USA at all.

Also, if these statements are true about the Verona then it's also true about the Chevrolet Epica.
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