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Manual to Auto swap?
« on: March 05, 2004, 03:27:06 PM »
It's hard to find an XL-7 with a 5spd so..
I was wondering if I found one with an Auto how hard would it be to fit it into my 99 5spd?
Then...
If I find a 5spd and 5spd ecm/ecu later could I just swap them back in? :-/ Is it that easy or am I dreaming?

I really want to get started on my 99 XL-7 Conv 8) but don't want to have to spend alot of $$ and time swaping parts back and forth for months at a time.
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Re: Manual to Auto swap?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2004, 12:50:11 PM »
nobody has an info?  ???
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Re: Manual to Auto swap?
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2004, 12:55:17 PM »
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It's hard to find an XL-7 with a 5spd so..
I was wondering if I found one with an Auto how hard would it be to fit it into my 99 5spd?
Then...
If I find a 5spd and 5spd ecm/ecu later could I just swap them back in? :-/ Is it that easy or am I dreaming?

I really want to get started on my 99 XL-7 Conv 8) but don't want to have to spend alot of $$ and time swaping parts back and forth for months at a time.



THere's a dude here that did just what you wanted to do.........gosh I totally forgot his handle too.  But he is here and he'd be the best source on this.
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Re: Manual to Auto swap?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2004, 11:41:56 AM »
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THere's a dude here that did just what you wanted to do.........gosh I totally forgot his handle too.  But he is here and he'd be the best source on this.


95XL7?

He put the 2.7 into his 95

Hey 95XL7 did you have a manual to start with?
I know you put an auto in it.

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Re: Manual to Auto swap?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2004, 12:34:29 PM »
Yes, i had stick originally. If you get a complete donor vehicle everything will work out except the rear driveshaft? Of course it will be alot more work. If you don't get a complete vehicle i wouldn't do it. I doubt you will want to go back to stick once you drive it with a auto. If the 99 and up are the same as mine, the pedal brackets are the same from auto to stick,i just removed the clutch pedal and replaced the brake pedal with a auto pedal(wider).
If your looking for a quick swap i would stick with the manual trans.                               Stu.
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Re: Manual to Auto swap?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2004, 01:34:05 PM »
Hey Stu, Do you think that If I didn't like the auto I could swap it back to manual when I find one, and a computer?

I had a 00 2dr with an auto. I liked it too, but I want the swap to go easy and also would like to stay with the manual (less likely the wife will drive it then) ;D
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Re: Manual to Auto swap?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2004, 09:53:01 PM »
Honestly i can't say? The problem i'm thinking about would be the dash harness,which is different from auto to stick. But maybe the extra connectors could just be left open? Plus the engine harness connects to the trans harness near the bell housing.I would hold out for a manual car or get a 200.00 beater to drive while your doing the swap.

When i did mine i was unemployed and had all the time in the world to do it,also the Trac isn't my primary driver,just my toy.                             Stu.
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Re: Manual to Auto swap?
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2004, 01:00:46 AM »
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Hey Stu, Do you think that If I didn't like the auto I could swap it back to manual when I find one, and a computer?

I had a 00 2dr with an auto. I liked it too, but I want the swap to go easy and also would like to stay with the manual (less likely the wife will drive it then) ;D


Another thing to think about is if you're going to run crawler gears in the t-case. If so, the XL.7 auto or manual will NOT work. The GV 2.5 liter automatic is your only solution to connect with a sidekick t-case fitted with your favorite crawler gears. FWIW The GV auto will bolt to the XL.7 engine....

Good Luck, Eric
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Re: Manual to Auto swap?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2004, 09:20:45 AM »
No crawler gears. It's my daily driver and I'm not going anywhere where I would need lower gears than I already have. Unless it makes it faster

I do have a question though...
What size diff gears are in the XL7 and would it be better to stay with the 2.0 gears(what size are they?).

I guess what i'm asking is.. is it the bigger the number the slower the wheels turn or is it the lower the number the faster they turn?

I'd like to be able to takeoff from a light fast but don't want to give up my top end speed either cause I drive on the highway(70mph) and don't want it to sound like its gonna blow up.
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Re: Manual to Auto swap?
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2004, 11:16:55 AM »
I know auto XL7's have 513 gears and so did my 95 with the manual so my tracker pretty much runs just like the XL7 would except for the fact i have 31" tires. The higher the number gear ratio is lower and makes take off quicker but limits top end if your transmission is also geared low.
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Re: Manual to Auto swap?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2004, 11:23:31 AM »
Look in the tech specs on the front page for your gear ratio says 4.875. XL7 manual 4.30 ,auto's 5.12, so if you installed a XL7 stick in your rig, you would benefit by having a slightly lower ratio 4.875 VS 4.30.
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Re: Manual to Auto swap?
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2004, 11:56:31 AM »
Well I just did a search and came up with

Specs are only for 5Spd manual
       XL-7 2.7       Grand Vitara 2.5        Vitara 2.0
1st   3.704                  3.704                    3.652
2nd  2.020                  2.020                    1.947
3rd   1.368                  1.368                    1.379
4th   1.000                  1.000                    1.000
5th   0.802                  0.802                    0.795
Rev   4.472                 4.472                    3.670
Transfer Case Gears
Low   1.816                 1.816                    1.816
High   1.000                 1.000                    1.000
Differencial Ratio
          4.300                4.300                    4.625
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