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txzuki07

Suzuki V-6
« on: June 07, 2005, 07:10:35 AM »
I've been loking for a new engine for the old Sammy the 1.3 just aint cuttin it anymore, I was thinking of trying to swap a new V-6 out of the XL7 or another new Suzuki trucks. Well has anyone thought about it or done this swap. Be some mean genuine suzuki power. The 2.5 puts out like 165 or somthing like that so any any helpfull info on the subject would be nice.

Joe
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Re: Suzuki V-6
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2005, 10:16:32 AM »
Hey Joe,

have a look here  ;) http://www.zukiworld.com/cgi/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=suzuki_talk;action=display;num=1118099290 It's for a kick, but..... also you might want to try the search function (make sure you set it up right so it'll search further back than only a week) there are some threads out here on engine swaps, don't know about a V6 though..... ;)
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Re: Suzuki V-6
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2005, 11:09:20 AM »
The more I turn this idea over in my head, the more I like it... More than double the power of my stock 1.6L (8v) and not a whole lot heavier. :)
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Re: Suzuki V-6
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2005, 02:02:21 AM »
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I've been loking for a new engine for the old Sammy the 1.3 just aint cuttin it anymore, I was thinking of trying to swap a new V-6 out of the XL7 or another new Suzuki trucks. Well has anyone thought about it or done this swap. Be some mean genuine suzuki power. The 2.5 puts out like 165 or somthing like that so any any helpfull info on the subject would be nice.

Joe


One problem you will face is the heighth of the motor. It is really tall and won't fit in a Samurai unless you have a suspension AND body lift.... OR maybe a huge hood scoop. ;)

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Re: Suzuki V-6
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2005, 04:50:29 AM »
Go for the 2.0L
    From looking at some of the websites there are kits for the Sam........127-135hp

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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2005, 08:22:33 AM »
Yeah thanks for the input guys, It would be awsome to get the engine but my mom hates my Sammy, and she wants to buy me somthing else to drive since its so "unsafe". So I dont know what will happen with my Zuki in the comming months, maybe it'll become my full time toy, if so I'll just keep the 1.3 b/c it's fine offroad it just dont cut it on the freeway. So untill I get it figured out I'll just drool over the V-6 power and see what happens.

Joe
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Re: Suzuki V-6
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2005, 10:16:06 AM »
Not to pirate the thread or anything but does anyone have the numbers about the weight difference between a 2.7 or2.5 V-6 and the 1.6 L?
 My motor's in great shape, but like many others, just a little dreaming.
 According to my wife, If I dream about it, I end up planning it, and next thing she knows I'm asking money to do it.  
She's takes care of the budget, the only reason there isn't all toys and no food in the house.

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Re: Suzuki V-6
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2005, 02:40:42 PM »
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Re: Suzuki V-6
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2005, 05:39:53 PM »
 Suzuki's must be like the puzzles in the toy store( box says for ages 6 and up) I havent had a convesation about what I drive with my mother in 10 years but I find myself thinking about and asking the same questions as JOE.
Or it's like my wife says they look bigger but all men no matter what age think they're 17
That's right my football jacket still fits honey ;D ;D ;D
Anyways to actually add something to this thread, has anybody thought about a rotary swap? (up to 200hp|removethispart|@8000 rpm)
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Re: Suzuki V-6
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2005, 03:11:22 AM »
4.0 ford v6 fits very nice.  cheap and somewhat easy swap in a samurai.  motor is fairly light for a v6, and has 155hp.
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Re: Suzuki V-6
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2005, 02:47:09 AM »
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4.0 ford v6 fits very nice.  cheap and somewhat easy swap in a samurai.  motor is fairly light for a v6, and has 155hp.



did it bolt up to the sammy gearbox? or the kick gearbox

anydetails ?
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Re: Suzuki V-6
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2005, 03:49:31 AM »
The Ford 4.0 is almost assuredly going to be a fuck of a lot heavier than a GV 2.5L or XL7 2.7L ;)
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Re: Suzuki V-6
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2005, 06:28:42 AM »
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The Ford 4.0 is almost assuredly going to be a fuck of a lot heavier than a GV 2.5L or XL7 2.7L ;)



while I will admit, i don't know for sure the weight of the 4.0, it is in the same engine family as the ford 2.8, and I know the ford 2.8 weighs in at 305lbs.  that really isn't to bad for a v6.  i have no idea what a 2.5 or 2.7 weighs, but i would be interested in facts instead opionions from people who really don't have a clue and have to use profanity to get their point across.

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trany to tcase jackshaft,  that is a short shaft c4 and a stock zuki tcase.


installation is pretty straight forward.  need to make all the mounts, and bolt it in.  widen the trany tunnell.  install an electric fuel pump, take the wiring harness out of the doner vehicall, and splice, what i believe was a about 3-4 wires.  it is pretty self explanintory once you start working on it.

the swap is really pretty cheap, no expensive parts needed, everthing can be found in the junk yard.  i would love to have a suzuki v6 in my samurai, but i can only imagine the cost of the motor alone would make it expensive.  i have been able to find wrecked exlporers/rangers that run good for less than $500.  also save a bit of money because with a v6 you don't need to run crazey low gearing(which ever v6 you use).  
i have run the ford 2.8 for 3+ years and used all stock gearing and 33x12.50 swampers.  i am a mudder though, and not a rock crawler(no rocks in iowa).
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Re: Suzuki V-6
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2005, 06:50:51 AM »
That hurts :( ;D

According to Eric, his kick only weighs 75lbs more with a 2.7L V6 than a similarly equipped Sidekick with the 1.6L... so the XL7 V6 is definately a very light engine.

Is that better? No fucking profanity that time ;)
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Re: Suzuki V-6
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2005, 06:58:52 AM »
FWIW
    Think about the 2.0l Suzuki L-4
- Easier to install (bolts to trans)
- Tons lighter (75lbs is alot in a 2000lb vehicle)
- 127-135hp stock....let alone playing with it.

    I would almost bet that a 2.0L would out do the 4.0L Ford (lighter, getting only 15-20hp less) based on power to weight.

Zag
« Last Edit: July 05, 2005, 06:59:22 AM by zaggy »
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