I was on Heathers web site and i was reading about her putting 2" lift TJ in the rear of her tracker.  How is this done?  do you have to cut the coils?  do you use the coils from the front or rear?  how much lift does this produce on a tracker?  Are they too stiff/soft?  Overall proformance?  would some from Rancho, Superlift or old man emu work better?   And do you think i could get better flex if i used rear TJ double eye shocks insted of stock tracker pin eye shocks?   thanks a bunch and a big thanks to Heather for putting this on her site.  check it out http://www.whitepineclub.com/members/kd7hcg/sidekick.html   lata stu

Stu,

I think they actually were TJ FRONT coils.  The rear coils are too large in overall diamater, but not big enough in wire diameter.  I need to tell her to update the webpage with the correct ones.

We didn't cut the coils at all.  We had the bottom coil closed off by about .5 an inch.  (pinched together a bit in a vice, be carefull doing this or you'll create a missle.)  This made the coil fit the bottom cup better.

I can't quite say how much lift it actually provides from a stock tracker.  We've made so many different modifications to make this nearly impossible.  
We do run that HUGE and HEAVY rear bumper, and it's a  4-door and it provided enough lift with a 3 inch body lift for 33s.  I just measured the fender opening and its 39 inches from the ground.   So maybe you can take in consideration all of those and get an estimate.  

They have been better then the 2 inch Calmini springs.  By better I mean that they seem to ride softer and firmer at the same time.  They seem to have a better spring rate for what we run then the 2 inch Calmini inches, with 1.75 inch spring spacers.  

We have recently upgraded from stock Jeep TJ front springs to 2 inch TJ lift springs from BDS.  We used these to remove the spring spacers that we had been running.

So 2 inch BDS lift TJ front coils, 33 inch tires, 3 inch body lift, heavy rear bumper, 4 door tracker and it's 39 inches from the ground at the top of the fender opening.

Good luck,

~Nate (and Heather)

Did you do this mod on the front or the rear
I thought it was the rear, is this right

Thanks,
Darrin

Yup, we did this to the rear.



Heather

OK Thanks Heather,
So how is the ride ?? I would think the front
TJ springs would be too stiff for the rear of
a Track/Kick.

I want to remove the spring spacers from my
rear, so this is an interesting topic for me,

Thanks again,
Darrin

I want to remove the spring spacers from my
rear, so this is an interesting topic for me,

Thanks again,
Darrin

This was EXACTLY why we did it!  Get rid of the spring spacers.

I'd say the ride is great.  The front coils seem stiffer then the rear.  But like I said above, we also have a lot of extra weight on the truck.

hummm what if i but some 10in lift coils in their???   can we say 39's  thanks for the info  lata stu

So what rear shocks did you use for the TJ 2" lifted springs???
I just put on a set of Crown Victoria Shocks, I like them so far.

So what rear shocks did you use for the TJ 2" lifted springs???
I just put on a set of Crown Victoria Shocks, I like them so far.

Don't exactly remember the Rancho part number (?5019?), they were not a 'Sidekick' part.  We took the shocks that came with the 2 inch Calmin kit and measured their compressed length and then their extended length and added ~2.5 inches to the compressed length and it ended up being like 3.5 inches longer then their extended length.  
We of course had to extend the brake line, and vent tube, and loosen up the e-brake cable clips, and ABS sensor wire to keep things from being damaged at full extension.

I'll have do crawl around my garage to find the boxes or crawl under the truck to see exactly what part number we got.  We still used the stock mounts on the top and use the same style of bottom mounts, but at a different location to accomodate the extended wheel base.

~Nate

Don't exactly remember the Rancho part number (?5019?), they were not a 'Sidekick' part.  We took the shocks that came with the 2 inch Calmin kit and measured their compressed length and then their extended length and added ~2.5 inches to the compressed length and it ended up being like 3.5 inches longer then their extended length.  
We of course had to extend the brake line, and vent tube, and loosen up the e-brake cable clips, and ABS sensor wire to keep things from being damaged at full extension.

I'll have do crawl around my garage to find the boxes or crawl under the truck to see exactly what part number we got.  We still used the stock mounts on the top and use the same style of bottom mounts, but at a different location to accomodate the extended wheel base.

~Nate

They are Rancho RS 5115's.



Heather

OK Thanks you two, I have 3" spacers on top
of stock SideKick Springs, how much longer
are the TJ 2" springs over the stock Kick ones

If I remember right, it would take a 16" long
spring to replece the spring/spacer setup I
have on right now, do you have the length of
the new spring  this would tell me if the
Crown Vic shocks are a match for these springs.

Thanks again
Darrin

what did you do to the front springs?

did you have to cut or mod anything or did you just take out the calmini springs and spacer and swap in the TJ coils? what did the TJ coils cost if ya dont mind me askin?
oh one o ther thing will the TJ coils work with Mikes mod to get more travel and straighten out the drive shaft angle?

I know this is unrelated but Isnt HCGalvin and Natebert the same person?

Mike

I though it was 2 people in the same club, or something like that