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Project RallyKick (Comments thread)
« on: July 05, 2005, 04:32:17 AM »
 Ã‚    Just got the project truck in the shop....
Thought you might enjoy the pics






Yeah even the bike is a Suzuki...........

It's an automatic, auto locking hubs and a liberal dose of rust........bad enough tonights project is checking it over to make sure the strut towers are ok.

Thanks again James

Zag
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Re: Project RallyKick (Starting)
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2005, 07:58:28 AM »
Man, that's what I call a CLEAN Trackick.

If you wanna see rusty, just take a peep at mine:
http://www.omghi2.us/april05/02.rustremoval.jpg
http://www.omghi2.us/april05/03.side.jpg


;D ;D

EDIT: Just saw the bike pic, that's real similar to some of the bikes I have... Mine are TS185, TS250 and TS400, all of the 1974 year as far as I can tell :)
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Re: Project RallyKick (Starting)
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2005, 08:13:38 AM »
I'd don't know how far behind I am......

As long as the front strut towers and the windshield posts are good I'll save it........for what I want to do those are the 2 places I need it to be saveable.......

I've got all the parts to repair the rest and the roll cage will give it the strength.

Zag
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Re: Project RallyKick (Starting)
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2005, 08:23:58 AM »
Hay zaggy that is the top that i want for my kick, the backwindows can come out :( some people ar just so lucky
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Re: Project RallyKick (Starting)
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2005, 08:33:57 AM »
You're welcome Zag ;D As long as I get a ride in it when its done I'll be happy ;)

Hey cool little bike...its the one you mentioned yesterday? I damn near lost my KLR this morning...heading down hwy 2 about 70MPH passing a semi the rear tube decided it was a good time to expel all of its air at one time....not fun :o
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Re: Project RallyKick (Starting)
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2005, 08:45:39 AM »
Prd2BCdn
    I guareentee when it's done you will get a ride so you can tell the guys on the board how it works.
   To bad about the bike, I know how scary that can be.

Zag
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Re: Project RallyKick (Starting)
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2005, 10:21:41 AM »
The Plan..............

The RallyKick is going to be built to be:
a) Daily Driver
b) Run Sports Car Club autoslalom events (Solo 1/2)
c) Run the Spring Pro Rallies here in Alberta
d) Be a fast trail runner for playing around
e) Mild 4X4 stuff (better than a Jeep)
f)  Look like a Paris-Dakar Rally machine/Baja pre-runner

To accomplish the objectives:
- Body repairs to be safe and strong, DIY
- Roll cage, road race style, DIY
- Interior, gutted and Rhino linered, DIY
- Racing buckets & 4 point harnesses, already have
- 4dr front bumper for bottom feeder cooling, DIY
- Possible Roo Bar

- P205-60-15 M&S tires (H-Rated), already have
- Lowered about 5" overall (Suspension and Tires), DIY
- Front and rear suspension handling mods, DIY
- 1.6/8v we built on "do it yerelf engine build", Done
- I think I'm gonna try a Doug Thorley header if I can't
 find a used one, Maybe I should try building one?
- Full 2 1/8" exhaust front to rear, Turbo muffler, DIY
- Custom induction, haven't figured it out yet, DIY
 (maybe a TPI sytem?)
- Stock 5spd and t/case, already have
- 4.62:1 front and rears, already have

- Full skid plates front to rear, DIY

    I'm thinking I'll take lots of pics seeing as I'm getting better with the camera and show all the steps so everyone can steal what they want from the build.

Step One...Tear down and evaluate

What do you guys think of the project?

Zag
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Re: Project RallyKick (Starting, The Plan)
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2005, 10:30:28 AM »
Lowering, while good for the slolem deal doesn't seem like it would be too awesome for the rally side of things... Trackers don't have too much ground clearance to begin with, and taking away 5" seems like it would make it scrape pretty easily :-/

I still think it sounds kickass, though. :)
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Re: Project RallyKick (Starting)
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2005, 10:31:03 AM »
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    I guareentee when it's done you will get a ride so you can tell the guys on the board how it works.
   To bad about the bike, I know how scary that can be.

Zag


COOL ;D Let me know if you'd like me to come over to help out.

It may be scary enough too consider getting out motorcycles...I've skidded down hwy2 before and this one was another close call...plus I was t-boned once by an SUV when I was on a motorcycle...the spidey senses are tingling at the moment ;)
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Re: Project RallyKick (Starting, The Plan)
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2005, 10:36:49 AM »
Explosivo
    When I used to run in this type of event we wanted about 6-7" of clearance to keep the C of G low but have enough travel to miss most of the stuff. The stuff we didn't miss...that's what the skid plates are for.
    The suspension will be modified to limit body roll but give as much controlled wheel travel as possible.
     
    But I guess we will find out...........

Zag

Prd2BCdn
    I know what you mean about the bikes, thats why I don't ride on the street anymore.....but if I'm wrong on the RallyKick suspension I can still go offroading with the Bike.
    I'll let you know how things are going.....

Zag
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Re: Project RallyKick (Starting, The Plan)
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2005, 10:38:32 AM »
Sounds like fun!
A 2dr kick as a rally machine is a great idea.  
I hope that it's not too top heavy as they generally are not as short as other rally-type cars.


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Re: Project RallyKick (Starting, The Plan)
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2005, 11:23:02 AM »
Natebert.....

    Back when I used to do this stuff seriously the hot ride was the old 68-73 Datsun 510, I don't think the Kick can be any worse than one of those after it was raised for Rally work (about 3-4")....
    By lowering the Kick I should wind up with about 7" to the rocker as I measure it on the shop floor. Stiff shocks, soft (relatively) springs and big sway bars and roll limiters shop give plenty of wheel travel for good control and handling. If I'm wrong I can always raise it back up.........
    This littlekick is also going on a major weight reduction program and have the battery and spare tire moved to the center of the rear body, balance.
    The skid plates are the key to the trail work, if you don't have to worry about damaging the bottom you can skip over most stuff.
    It's going to be a series of compromises, but when done it has to be better than that RAV4 on the Watercooler, or a Jeep Liberty.


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Re: Project RallyKick (Starting, The Plan)
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2005, 04:41:38 PM »
getting calmini's sway bar setup would make it handle better. then just leave the suspension stock, put some good struts and shocks, some widers tires, and your done.
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Re: Project RallyKick (Starting, The Plan)
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2005, 12:53:01 AM »
What did you pay for the truck?
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Re: Project RallyKick (Starting, The Plan)
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2005, 02:18:58 AM »
Agent_Orange
    I'm going with sway bars but am going to build my own, front and rear, cause I'm cheap and I can (this has to be a mega low buck project). But it will still need lowered to get to a competitive handling level. It's a compromise.
    What's neat is if I present this right you guys can take what you want from the build (ie: sway bars) and DIY, but not have to copy everything I'm doing. Sort of a steal what you like idea.
    The vehicles I will compete against in solo and rally are newer more sophisticated cars with highly modified suspensions. I think the RallyKick can be competitive because of:
- It's short wheel base
- AWD
- Modified weight distribution
- Experienced driver

I don't expect it to be a region champ, but I do expect it to do well and open some eyes.

- For the kind of mild 4X4 stuff I do (camping, trails,
 messing around it should still be a better 4X4 than the
 Rav4 in the watercooler...at a fraction of the cost.

Keith
    Sorry guy I never kiss and tell, but trust me it was very inexpensive.

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