Anybody here put NOS on a 1.6L 16v Suzuki motor?

If so, did you use a 'dry' system and let the ECM take care of the fuel or did you use a 'wet' system?

If so, what brand of system did you use, or did you make a custom setup?

~Nate

NOS is juste for the f*cking ricers!!

With this you juste destroy your beautiful 16v!!

Keep away from this. Many others ungrades are better than NOS.

Fredo

NOS on 4x4 ?
can you say waste of $$ ?

Anybody here put NOS on a 1.6L 16v Suzuki motor?

If so, did you use a 'dry' system and let the ECM take care of the fuel or did you use a 'wet' system?

If so, what brand of system did you use, or did you make a custom setup?

~Nate

Don't let the nay sayers dampen your enthusiasm. I think that a squirt of Nitrous would be very beneficial when trying to cross the occasional swamp area, get up the dunes, or climb the last little bit of that steep hill. I've seen Nitrous on a Samurai motor; it was a fogger setup that had nozzles on each runner. I think you could get a simpler system for the 16v engine and it would work just dandy. Remember, start small on the jet sizes and work up. The Samurai I refered to earlier forgot their jets completely and got about a 2 second burn before the motor puked on their initial test fire. Whoops!

Nitrous Express has kits for 4-bangers... NOS is probably a little less expensive and is sold through Holley.

Good luck, Eric

Don't let the nay sayers dampen your enthusiasm. I think that a squirt of Nitrous would be very beneficial when trying to cross the occasional swamp area, get up the dunes, or climb the last little bit of that steep hill.
Nitrous Express has kits for 4-bangers... NOS is probably a little less expensive and is sold through Holley.

Good luck, Eric

My thoughts exactly.  That last little bit of a steep climb or the extra shot of H.P. to scoot across some deep mud would be very helpful.  Especially when facing the fact that superchargers for our trucks are a far cry from being available and turbos are a no-no for rock crawling.

Thanks,
~Nate

"and turbos are a no-no for rock crawling."  ? ? ?

That all depends on the turbo and how it is setup.
I would think a shot of Nitrous is cool, and on a
rock crawl just what the Dr. ordered to flip you over
backwards or snap somthing in the driveline.

NOs is great for power, don't get me wrong, but it is
all but a smooth when it comes to finesse on the rocks.

On the other hand, a turbo is a smooth buildup of power,
often times giving you the little boost in power you need,
when you need it. Need more, put a little more foot into it.

Case and point, a turbo diesel in a zook, how many of you
want one of these?, Say I.

It's all in the way it's setup, a turbo will produce boost where
you want it, low RPM or high, each of these setups have their
strong and weak points, low RPM boost improves torque, and
sacrifices high RPM flow and HP.

A huge turbo might flow bitchin at 8000 RPM, but low RPM will
be totaly useless, this would be for the drags, not for rocks.

Darrin

"and turbos are a no-no for rock crawling."  ? ? ?

That all depends on the turbo and how it is setup.
I would think a shot of Nitrous is cool, and on a
rock crawl just what the Dr. ordered to flip you over
backwards or snap somthing in the driveline.

NOs is great for power, don't get me wrong, but it is
all but a smooth when it comes to finesse on the rocks.

On the other hand, a turbo is a smooth buildup of power,
often times giving you the little boost in power you need,
when you need it. Need more, put a little more foot into it.

Case and point, a turbo diesel in a zook, how many of you
want one of these?, Say I.

It's all in the way it's setup, a turbo will produce boost where
you want it, low RPM or high, each of these setups have their
strong and weak points, low RPM boost improves torque, and
sacrifices high RPM flow and HP.

A huge turbo might flow bitchin at 8000 RPM, but low RPM will
be totaly useless, this would be for the drags, not for rocks.

Darrin

Very true.  A turbo does have it's place too.

I'd just hate to have a turbo begin to spool up and increase the spike in my torque curve, when I don't want it too.  
Hence the, super charger.  It would be perfect blend of both worlds.

Most turbo setups, such as street use, not street racer (ricer)
are not that twitchy or spikey, they can be made to be,
but for our application (my zook) it has been a really
good match, and I can get from less than 0 boost up
to 4 at present.

Keep in mind that gasoline engines are a vacuum producing
critter, and most run at wide open throttle with 2-5 inches of
vacuum. Just a slight amount of boost if you will, can bring
this vacuum situation to a 0, no boost but no vacuum, yet
an increase in power by just meeting the engines demand
for air.

I run an auto trans, this might make a big difference in the
way my setup performs, but I get up against a steep hill,
or rock hopping and have to back off the throttle because
I need gears and a TC 4:1 kit, therfore I can't get up the
obsticle, I hear boost blow down, not lots just from around
2 PSI, you would be surprised as how smooth the power
band  is, much less than a NOs kit which is more of a light
switch, and BTW if you accidently hit the "button" out of  gear
or in too low of gear, could be an instant naded motor, which
in my oppinion bites big time.

But to have NOs and go out putting ricers in their place, hmmm......

I have raced using N2O for years, and I can guarentee that you that if you use it properly it will work flawlessly for a long time.  One big advantage it has is that you can turn it off and on by simply throwing a switch.

You also need to keep in perspective what you are going to achieve.  We are talking about a motor that makes ~100hp, so if you gain 30% (that's a very agressive goal) then you are only picking up 30hp.  Don't ge me wrong that would be a very nice little gain, but it is not going to throw you in the seat and make your face peel back.  Anybody that tells you to expect a big surge of power has watched the fast and the furious one too many times!

as far as wet or dry....the dry is much easier to configure but you will be able to get more aggressive with a wet kit.  I personally would use a dry kit and keep it toned down since noone really knows what these pistons can handle.

One final note.....for ultimate HP gains you can't beat a turbo, so if that is your goal then a turbo is the only way to go........problem with a turbo is that noone makes a kit and you will have to do some fabrication....nothing big if you have the proper tools and know how, but you need to have some background knowledge.

For the $$$ I don't think you will be able to beat a shot of the gas........Have fun and don't get greedy!

I have raced using N2O for years, and I can guarentee that you that if you use it properly it will work flawlessly for a long time.  One big advantage it has is that you can turn it off and on by simply throwing a switch.

You also need to keep in perspective what you are going to achieve.  We are talking about a motor that makes ~100hp, so if you gain 30% (that's a very agressive goal) then you are only picking up 30hp.  Don't ge me wrong that would be a very nice little gain, but it is not going to throw you in the seat and make your face peel back.  Anybody that tells you to expect a big surge of power has watched the fast and the furious one too many times!

as far as wet or dry....the dry is much easier to configure but you will be able to get more aggressive with a wet kit.  I personally would use a dry kit and keep it toned down since noone really knows what these pistons can handle.

One final note.....for ultimate HP gains you can't beat a turbo, so if that is your goal then a turbo is the only way to go........problem with a turbo is that noone makes a kit and you will have to do some fabrication....nothing big if you have the proper tools and know how, but you need to have some background knowledge.

For the $$$ I don't think you will be able to beat a shot of the gas........Have fun and don't get greedy!

Thanks for the feedback.  

I've been reading about all applications of nitrous and have become to understand about what I think I can expect.  More than about a %25 HP gain on any motor without major improvements is asking for a lot for durabilities sake  (like you said, who knows how much these little pistons can take).  Which means that a measly 25HP isn't much, but it is %25 more when you need it.  I don't expect a kick in the pants for a 4x4 anyway.

I like the ability to leave the motor stock most of the time.  There are only a few times when I wish I had a little extra umph ; long hill climbing and mud bogging to be specific.

Since you mentioned that you've raced with nitrous, have you to an email address I can send further specific questions to?  I'm interested in your thoughts about dry vs wet applications and WOT throttle switches, vs manual 'momentary-type' push buttons.

U_SAY_GO|removethispart|@hotmail.com

I have only used WOT switches, but that is in a drag racing environment so you may want to do it differently.

The WOT switch is nice because you don't have to think about it......Just arm the system when you may potentially need it and then it's there once the pedal hits the carpet.  

A word of caution....Nitrous motors don't like to be "lugged" so if the motor is being bogged down and it out of it's powerband then that is NOT the time to spray it.  I can almost guarantee a blown headgasket if you try it.  After using it for a while you will get the feel for when the motor likes it and doesn't....the key is having the rpms up when it comes on.