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jookycola

Lift idea?
« on: June 19, 2004, 01:16:29 PM »
so i see Eibach offers 1.5inch lift springs for sidekicks.  does anyone see a problem with adding 2inch coil spacers to this and making it 3 inches?

because to me that would be a nice 3inch budget lift in my opinion, but i'm wary of mixing aftermarket springs with spacers made for factory ones.
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Re: Lift idea?
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2004, 01:32:14 PM »
you would need some thing to fix CV angles. :-/

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Re: Lift idea?
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2004, 02:22:29 PM »
The problems probably won't lie in mixing aftermarket springs and coil spacers, but rather, as Stu said, with the CV angles.

You could always try to do a Calmini-esque front differential drop by making the bottom cushion on the pinion mount about 1/2" shorter. :-/
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Re: Lift idea?
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2004, 03:56:08 PM »
not sure if this will work but the CV's arn't long enough after a tall lift right?  to why not just cut them in half and put a spacer in them?  it would have to be vary strong but i think it would work.

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Re: Lift idea?
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2004, 04:20:30 PM »
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Re: Lift idea?
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2004, 03:28:33 AM »
ahh who needs to steer anyway! ;)

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Re: Lift idea?
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2004, 09:18:09 AM »
You'll need to fit strut spacers and longer shocksor you'll have no wheel droop at all and you'll never keep all the wheels on the ground while cornering
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jookycola

Re: Lift idea?
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2004, 10:40:37 AM »
ok good point....so now my next question is.

if i just do the 2 inch coil spacer lift, on an otherwise stock suspension.  am i going to have issues with steering and wheel droop?
And out side of buying and installing the spacers, what other expenses will i incur?  also can a truck with spacers still be aligned and camber corrected?

sorry for all the questions but i am 110% buying spacers next week and i plan to install them and just want to be 100% aware of all that is invovled in doing this. and roughly how much more i will spend after all is said and done.  I am currently under the impression that all i need to do after the install is get the truck aligned...it is after all only 2 inches.
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Re: Lift idea?
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2004, 10:46:13 AM »
I think that the steering might work ok with just 2".  The angles might be off, but I believe it will be hard to tell the difference by drive & feel once the alignment is complete, especially with bigger tires.  Once you go with bigger tires everything will feel different.  You would certinly need to do the strut mount flip up front.    I say Go for it...    
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Re: Lift idea?
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2004, 11:49:49 AM »
big tires are done 235/75/15's installed a month and a half ago, delayed them aligning it because i wanted to lift it first and kill two birds with one stone.  my biggest problem is of all the zukis i've owned this one i plan on taking take of...no hardcore trail rig here.  it's going to be my solid daily driver and want it to remain comfortable so i've bounced around the ideas of all the different lifts out there and the spacers seem to be the best choice because i can keep my stock ride feel but still be lifted.
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Re: Lift idea?
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2004, 01:07:16 PM »
Before dismantling the suspension, measure the coil height at full droop and the stretch in your brake line. Due realize that this length will be shorten the spacer height due to the strut length (the common denominator) or you could add a spacer to the strut mount to equal, or flip the strut mount as it's real easy. After all is said and done, everything is installed and back together, check the droop one more time, looking at the brake line tension. Don't forget to turn the steering wheel. You may have to remount the brake line lower to compensate.
With your taller tires already installed, after front coil is removed to add the spacer, check the suspension and tire clearance by cycling the tire up (you will have to reconnect the strut). You may realize that longer bump stops will be necessary to keep tire off the sheetmetal during compression.
Perform the same on the rear install. The shock length will hinder the droop. Longer shocks will be needed to get the benefit. For binding, assuming you have a 1/2 generation Sidekick, check the center diff mount for binding. You may have to fab a spacer for this. Check your brake line as well as the parking brake cable for binding during droop.
Good luck.

PS. I'm still working on getting my -7's front coils to collapse so that I could add my front spacers....
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Re: Lift idea?
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2004, 03:04:54 AM »
 From what I've seen first hand with a 2" spring or spacer lift, if you undo the parking brake cable from the rear mounting points on the rear of the frame, you will be fine.
As far as the brake lines are concerned, either get a longer replacement from Calmini, or add on to it using a VW Bug or van short hose from a local VW parts place, very cheap. The front, if you have a problem with front hose length, put a left front hose on the right, and re-route the left to about the same level, problem solved.
The droop issue can be addressed by flipping the strut spacer, and having a 1" spacer made for the top of that. The rear, you need to put longer shocks on it, plain and simple.
From what I've seen with installing the Calmini 3" and using other routes to accomplish 3" of lift, the steering can be adjusted very easily, just a toe adjustment. The Calmini also has a camber fix in the control arms. But that one you could fix with eccentric bolts.
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Re: Lift idea?
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2004, 07:55:59 AM »
The calmini 2 inch is a pretty inexpensive lift. It retains the stock front coils, corrects camber, corrects CV angles, and rides very close to stock. Ubove all its durable and long lasting. By the time you buy 4 coils from someone, have a strut spacer made, buy new rear shocks, correct rear driveshaft angle, ecentric cam bolts, and buy some coilspring spacers are you really saving money? Im all for saving a buck or two, but it doesnt sound like it will be enough saved to make it worth all the work.

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Re: Lift idea?
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2004, 09:54:46 AM »
yeah no kidding, does sound like alot of hassel.

but what if all i wanted to do was install the 2inch spacers?  forget the springs.  is much more to just doing 2inch spacer install than just installing them?
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Re: Lift idea?
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2004, 09:58:59 AM »
I think the tallest spacer you can go with is 1 3/4 cause the rear coil will slide out of place. You will still need to get longer shocks and flip the plates and make a 1 inch strut spacer, or buy OME struts.

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