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Opinions on / experiences with Samurai lifts
« on: April 17, 2005, 12:55:16 PM »
I'm looking at lifting my Samurai.
I'm sitting here pouring through all the manufaturer's lifts I was curious what the opinions of people here are.
I've pretty much ruled out calmini's lifts as I don't want to do a shackle reversal.
I was thinking of piecing a lift together from a variety of Manufactures.


Any opions / real life experience with lifts for the samurai greatly appretiated.
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Re: Opinions on / experiences with Samurai lifts
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2005, 02:29:00 PM »
I only have one thing to say.....Rocky Road Outfitters is the WORST company I have ever done business with!!!! Period. Stay away from them unless you want to part with your money and then beg for weeks (if not months) to get your stuff. Oh and there will be varying excuses depending on who you talk to on any given day.....and don't bother to try to contact the owner (Glen Wakefield), he is like talking to a brick wall and has a screwed up sense of reality.

To top it off....their product did not fit very well (although it did work), all the parts were just tossed in a box twice the needed size, and it is hit and miss whether or not you will get any instructions.

BAD NEWS!!!!!
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Re: Opinions on / experiences with Samurai lifts
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2005, 03:00:21 PM »
go find some jeep cj front springs for the rear and put your stock rears up front... at the same time doin a SPOA..... the only thing I'd really want to buy from a manufaturer would be a nice steering set up, either from breeze or calmini
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Re: Opinions on / experiences with Samurai lifts
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2005, 03:04:09 PM »
I've been looking at the Spider Trax lift mainly because it's local for me and I won't have to pay freight. They seem to all be about the same so it comes down to price for me.
There is one company out there that has a nice perches that just fit into the old perches once you put the springs on the top but they are very proud of them and once you weld them I wouldn't think it matters.
Hopefully we will be looking for a lift in the next few weeks.
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Re: Opinions on / experiences with Samurai lifts
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2005, 03:04:18 PM »
I GOT THE 5 INCH SHACKLE REVERSE KIT FROM CALMINI
ORDERED ON A MONDAY GOT IT ON FRIDAY . BOLTS RIGHT ON NO HACKEN OR WELDING . FIT GREAT

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Re: Opinions on / experiences with Samurai lifts
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2005, 04:59:58 PM »
Ross only problem is I really don't want to go with a shackle reversal.
I was looking at www.sky-manufacturing.com at their new SPOA lift for 380

The Stage 2 Samurai S.P.O.A is a new kit from Sky's that allows the consumer to add 4.5 inch's of lift to there Samurai with only minor welding of the spring pads required. The kit includes all parts needed to perform a safe and functional Spring Over Axle Conversion. Our heavy duty spring pads, our single OTS, steering kit, 2 1 inch driveshaft spacers, and longer brake lines. Should you need to upgrade in the future all of these parts will work with add on products. This is the least amount of parts you should have in a spring over conversion, and the minimum to be safe and prevent damage to your Samurai.

Price - $380.00


Comes with everything I was looking at getting for a basic SPOA.
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Re: Opinions on / experiences with Samurai lifts
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2005, 06:01:28 PM »
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Comes with everything I was looking at getting for a basic SPOA.

Well then, what are you waiting for ?

;D

BTW on the steeringsystem: I have the ACME Adapters Extreme Hi-Steer and are more then satisfied with quality/price and the nice communications with Jeff Kerr from www.acmeadapters.com, no "talking to a brick wall" here !!
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Re: Opinions on / experiences with Samurai lifts
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2005, 06:04:44 PM »
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Ross only problem is I really don't want to go with a shackle reversal.
I was looking at www.sky-manufacturing.com at their new SPOA lift for 380

The Stage 2 Samurai S.P.O.A is a new kit from Sky's that allows the consumer to add 4.5 inch's of lift to there Samurai with only minor welding of the spring pads required. The kit includes all parts needed to perform a safe and functional Spring Over Axle Conversion. Our heavy duty spring pads, our single OTS, steering kit, 2 1 inch driveshaft spacers, and longer brake lines. Should you need to upgrade in the future all of these parts will work with add on products. This is the least amount of parts you should have in a spring over conversion, and the minimum to be safe and prevent damage to your Samurai.

Price - $380.00


Comes with everything I was looking at getting for a basic SPOA.


Sky's stuff is very nice. I would go with the kit you have mentioned and see what expense it would be to finish the steering with a complete Over The Top.

This way you will do it once, and not waste money on parts and then upgrade.

I have their complete OTT steering and will buy it again for my next zuk.
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Re: Opinions on / experiences with Samurai lifts
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2005, 07:20:09 PM »
I think it is 180.00 more but if you want the fj-80 tre's you have to send them your pitman arm first and tell them you want the fj-80's, for the 20.00 to bore the pitman arm it seams well worth it.
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Re: Opinions on / experiences with Samurai lifts
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2005, 04:14:24 AM »
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I think it is 180.00 more but if you want the fj-80 tre's you have to send them your pitman arm first and tell them you want the fj-80's, for the 20.00 to bore the pitman arm it seams well worth it.


You can do that, but you don't have too.

That is an option. FJ TRE's are huge compared to Samurai ends.

If you go with the complete OTT steering it uses FJ ends for everything except the pitman arm. That is replaced with a new Suzuki end.

It is nice to be able to adjust you steering with the new Toyota ends. They are a Left and a Right hand thread. You don't have to take things apart when making adjustments. Just loosen the jamb nut and rotate the tube to lengthen or shorten.

I didn't send anything in. I am using a Tracker pitman arm on mine. I have a 16 valve with power steering in my zuk.
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Re: Opinions on / experiences with Samurai lifts
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2005, 07:14:38 AM »
I was looking at that kit again and realized that it doesn't come with bump stops or new shock mounting points. oh well can't have everything for as cheap as I am. ;D

I was looking at using these but for the life of me cannot figure out how they are a bolt on lower shock mount for spring over applications like calmini says???

« Last Edit: April 18, 2005, 07:17:02 AM by bashzuk »
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2005, 07:38:15 AM »
http://www.breezeindustries.com/    This is a company located in B.C. Canada. Ive seen lots of rigs using their products.  EXCELLENT quaility, and just about eveyting you need for lifts, and steering. Ive even driven a couple of Samis with their products, Im still impressed and i drive a Kick!!!  The traction bar kit is pretty sweet too, it even protects the drive shaft a bit.  Hope this helps.
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Re: Opinions on / experiences with Samurai lifts
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2005, 08:28:00 AM »
Calmini Shackle Reverse.  Smooth ride.  Straight bolt on and easily modified with springs to get any height that you want to go.

p.s.-make sure that they actually have the parts in stock before ordering.  they have the best parts but the shipping may take forever.
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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2005, 12:31:54 PM »
Spidertrax makes great stuff, always shipped fast, but you do have to have a little welding experiance. If you are looking for bolt on ,I say it alot, I love my Emu springs.
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Re: Opinions on / experiences with Samurai lifts
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2005, 03:37:13 PM »
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http://www.breezeindustries.com/    This is a company located in B.C. Canada. Ive seen lots of rigs using their products.  EXCELLENT quaility, and just about eveyting you need for lifts, and steering. Ive even driven a couple of Samis with their products, Im still impressed and i drive a Kick!!!  The traction bar kit is pretty sweet too, it even protects the drive shaft a bit.  Hope this helps.



I have had this on my Samurai since 2002.  Got it from Northcoast Offroad.  It did require welding.  The Breeze draglink does a good job controlling bumpsteer and is a HECKUVA LOT STRONGER than any home-made Z-link.

The Sky Mfg unit looks pretty good if you want to avoid welding.  It also looks like they are self-aligning so you don't have to worry about screwing up the Caster angle when installing the front perches. You'll also need a rear shock-mount brackets and the front lower shock mount brackets pictured below (along with shocks) to complete the kit:





Re-read Cosmo's post at the top carefully.  It has some good advice.
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